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    Cisitalia 202, Fiat 8V ist series, Fiat 1100 S MM, 1100 ES wanted

    I got a very lucrative offer on my ISO Grifo yesterday

    I promised myself only to sell it if I could buy myself one off the above mentioned cars

    Problem is that they will cost more than my Grifo
    I would like to purchase therefore either a cheap car, or a projectcar if possible

    Has anybody seen something like that for sale recently ?
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    sorry for the question, but what's the price of iso grifo, cisitalia 202 and fiat 8V these days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sei cilindri
    I got a very lucrative offer on my ISO Grifo yesterday

    I promised myself only to sell it if I could buy myself one off the above mentioned cars

    Problem is that they will cost more than my Grifo
    I would like to purchase therefore either a cheap car, or a projectcar if possible

    Has anybody seen something like that for sale recently ?
    wow, that was the last thing i would have expectd from you,after you clearly stated that you would never sell it

    edit: eBay turned out nothing. Lets hope you find a 8v i absolutely LOVE the cars looks

    http://search.sothebys.com/
    http://www.barrett-jackson.com/
    http://www.bonhams.com/

    do some searches here
    another edit: barret-jackson has no cars,which you are looking for

    yet another edit:
    http://www.marreyt-classics.com/autosdetail.cfm?ID=302

    check this 8v for sale out !!!

    edit once more:
    this site is actually quite good
    http://www.italparts.com/index_italparts.php?url=http://www.italparts.com/details.php?id=6782&plaats=2907&prijs=&item=24&sta tus=&garage=&type=&terug=/overzicht.php?id=2907^page=2

    cisialia 202 for sale !!!!
    Last edited by drakkie; 12-15-2005 at 09:20 AM.

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    September "Automobile" magazine published a photo list of the 25 Most Beautiful cars. The Cisitalia 202 coupe looks very similar to a car my father had in the early 60's, in Detroit. The passenger/navigator seat a wraparound bucket, was displaced rearward with a foot bar on the floor, rollbar and 5 point harness, all that appeared factory installed. I beleive the car had been raced at LeMans. It had many Fiat parts, but I have never determined the marque. I understand there were only 150 of these cars. What is the likelyhood what my father had was a 202?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldortenzio
    September "Automobile" magazine published a photo list of the 25 Most Beautiful cars. The Cisitalia 202 coupe looks very similar to a car my father had in the early 60's, in Detroit. The passenger/navigator seat a wraparound bucket, was displaced rearward with a foot bar on the floor, rollbar and 5 point harness, all that appeared factory installed. I beleive the car had been raced at LeMans. It had many Fiat parts, but I have never determined the marque. I understand there were only 150 of these cars. What is the likelyhood what my father had was a 202?
    If it had many Fiat parts it could be a Siata 208, altough I think those only came as a convertible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldortenzio
    September "Automobile" magazine published a photo list of the 25 Most Beautiful cars. The Cisitalia 202 coupe looks very similar to a car my father had in the early 60's, in Detroit. The passenger/navigator seat a wraparound bucket, was displaced rearward with a foot bar on the floor, rollbar and 5 point harness, all that appeared factory installed. I beleive the car had been raced at LeMans. It had many Fiat parts, but I have never determined the marque. I understand there were only 150 of these cars. What is the likelyhood what my father had was a 202?

    more likely given that we are talking about the early sixties, it could have been an Abarth Zagato or Vignale Coupe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldortenzio View Post
    September "Automobile" magazine published a photo list of the 25 Most Beautiful cars. The Cisitalia 202 coupe looks very similar to a car my father had in the early 60's, in Detroit. The passenger/navigator seat a wraparound bucket, was displaced rearward with a foot bar on the floor, rollbar and 5 point harness, all that appeared factory installed. I beleive the car had been raced at LeMans. It had many Fiat parts, but I have never determined the marque. I understand there were only 150 of these cars. What is the likelyhood what my father had was a 202?
    ONLY the Fiat 8V Rapi had seats like that and drivers seatpositioned forward of passenger.. Fiat 8V Fantastic car.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sei cilindri
    I got a very lucrative offer on my ISO Grifo yesterday

    I promised myself only to sell it if I could buy myself one off the above mentioned cars

    Problem is that they will cost more than my Grifo
    I would like to purchase therefore either a cheap car, or a projectcar if possible

    Has anybody seen something like that for sale recently ?

    Your Iso Grifo; can you let me know if a superior bid is possible? Dependong of course that it is a running extravaganza?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D'ARTOIS
    Your Iso Grifo; can you let me know if a superior bid is possible? Dependong of course that it is a running extravaganza?
    Well , I am not actively trying to sell my Grifo for as Drakkie mentioned I had no intention on ever selling it

    Nevertheless I got an offer of Euro 62.000 Euro for my car which is a good offer (I was offered 175.000 DM for the car back in 1989 but that was before the super car bubble bursted)
    Ofcourse I would consider a better offer but either way I would want to have the possibility to aquire one of my ultimate dream cars for els ethere would be no point selling it

    Anyway, that set me thinking again as I really love the first series 8V with the Carozzeria Speciale coachwerk


    To tell you the truth, Drakkie , I do not want a Zagato bodied 8V. I think this is the least pretty of the bunch (which does not mean that I do not liek it but there were some many beautiful bodies on this car)

    As for prices : anywere from 120.000 to 500.000 Euro I would say
    Last edited by Sei cilindri; 12-15-2005 at 02:33 PM.
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    No, sei cilindri, that is out of my budget, I had a Rivolta, back in '75 or '76 with the Chrysler V8 - bought it for 6000 fl - never assumed those high prices of today.
    My sister mailed me (from France) that they have dicovered a Bugatti 56 not far away from her farm and that they have sold it for an amazing euro 300.000 - if I may believe her (which I don't usualy).

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    yes ,a good (not concours) Iso Grifo will set you back between 45 and 65 K I would say and big blocks fetch even more

    Of course the Rivolta is worth considerably less, I would say half that amount at most as the design is less "supercar" and more down to earth

    I think you do not remember the engine correct btw
    Most Iso sportscars were fitted with modified Chevrolet engines
    The last years , i believe from '70 on till they went bankrupt in '74 they used Ford engines
    They claimed that GM could or would not supply the right stuff , but i suspect by then they had already financial trouble

    Chrysler V8 engines were fitted to Facel Vega and Jensen
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    You must be right. This Rivolta had a Ford V8 - I remember that now, I believe to remember that it had a Shelby block. I had a De Tomaso Deauville - very shortly - I had to sell it for financial reasons a few weeks after I bought the car.
    Once, I bought a Facel Vega for little money with a burst V8 - that was the Chrysler.

    Is there someone who remembers the late Carel Mumm from Zandvoort in the forum?

    Just curiosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D'ARTOIS
    No, sei cilindri, that is out of my budget, I had a Rivolta, back in '75 or '76 with the Chrysler V8 - bought it for 6000 fl - never assumed those high prices of today.
    My sister mailed me (from France) that they have dicovered a Bugatti 56 not far away from her farm and that they have sold it for an amazing euro 300.000 - if I may believe her (which I don't usualy).
    Hello d'Artois. You have more information about this Bugatti that was discovered?

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    would you ever think of trading that car for something like an e type convert, austin healey, jaguar xk 120 conv, or aston martin
    i like it when you call me big mommy.

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    Can't help you on that (though my 2300 in the avatar belonged to H Hugenholtz sr, founder of Zandvoort) but you owned some pretty interesting cars in your day.

    Most of them rather short I understand but nevertheless..
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