Isn't the Astra VXR (240ps) faster around the Ring than the RWD 130i M (265hp) package?
Isn't the Astra VXR (240ps) faster around the Ring than the RWD 130i M (265hp) package?
wouldn't suprise me, they wouldnt put a proper diff on the 1, so in reality it doesnt handle that fastOriginally Posted by KM2
Originally Posted by TVR IS KING
Yes it's expensive yes its a BMW, but does that make it worth the money you would pay for it, i think not. I also wouldn't class the whole 1 series range as sport hatches just the 130i. I wouldn't expect them to be cheap but if your paying a dump load of money for it you would want it to be better than the cheaper competition.
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Well it is probably more luxurious than the competition. It isnt a cheap sports model, it is the flagship model. A BMW flagship isnt just sports, its luxury as well.
Its allowed to cost more...
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how is the 1 series considered bmw's flagship model ??Originally Posted by TVR IS KING
If you read closer he was talking about the 130iM in relation to the 1 series...
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Indeed I was. Its the flagship 1er, not the flagship BMW. You almost deserve a good hard flaming :P
All about the t-tops
woops, my bad
FWD is perfectly adequate in a hatch with modern LSDs and well sorted suspension and steering.
So my guess is that a switch to RWD would be a marketing idea more than anything performance oriented.
suspension and steering has nothing with what im talking about, fwd WON'T work once you pass a certain threshold (power/torque wise), small wheelbase, clever suspension will only work up to a certain point
Its mainly cos hot hatches are driven by young tossers who dont know how to drive - if they were rear wheel drive they'd get binned even more than they do.
Its generally not until they progress to their first 3-series BMW that most of us learn car control, by which time, most of us are mid-20s and little less stupid.
Except that the majority of people in the UK driving 3-Series BMWs are tossers that don't care about anyone else on the road and don't know (or care) how to drive at all!Originally Posted by elway7uk
As Jimmy Carr said "Definition of a tosser-Man driving a BMW whilst talking on a mobile phone!"
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I bought a opel kadett 1200s from 1976 when I was 18 witch i stil have.
Later I bought a opel comandore 2,5s from 1984 witch i crash twice, the last time in 140kmh
Then a Izusu combo from 1994 RWD witch I could not get trough the EU regulated car testing.
Then I bought myself a chrysler stratus from 2000. My good what a disapointment, drafting trough the corners on slipery ice in wintertime was something I was not able to do annymore And even it was 200kg lighter ans had 40hp more than the izusu I was not able to cover the same distance at a tight conering road at a shorter time.
I hate front weel drive and think it's a steep back in car development.
I live now in Taiwan where rear weel drive is hard to find so I got to chose betwen beetle(to litle power and modifications are uligal here) jaguar(to heavy) honda s2000(to litle for to mutch money) or a old nissan(my best option and im looking for one)
FWDs aren't that bad. There seems to be a badge of honor that comes with owning a RWD car, the only ones most people can buy are old Nissans from the 80s and 90s which, while abit fast, aren't awe inspiring.
Still available in the market:Originally Posted by h00t_h00t
The Volga RWD
The Lada RWD
so you can still buy cheapos if you want to feel the thrill of power oversteer....
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