Why does FIAT have to sux?

[Volvoman]

Fiat must be heading in the right direction. After being out of the Australian market for nearly 20 years, they are coming back in June with the Grande Punto. I'm not saying that to be the best car maker in history you need to sell cars on Oz, but if they can come back to a market or break into a new market, then you must be heading in the right direction.

[pimento]

Passion and style don't necessarily mean speed and excitement. Alfas lately haven't been mind-blowingly fast, but I'd say that they have as much if not more passion and style than any other auto maker. I certainly can't think of a more stylish set of cars. Unfortunatey passion and style aren't enough to sell the amount of cars that Fiat need to move, so they need reliability and some nice engineering also. So in short, they'll get there. And if you can convince everyone to buy an Alfa, they'll get there faster.. shouldn't be too hard, just look at em.

[zeta]

Things like Renault don't suck, they're aiming for the economical market. If you really want to see them try, please refer to this year's F1.

Who said renault sucks? I wish Fiat had some of renaults good qualties.

*On a nother 'note' the Clio sportV6 is the one thats no longer made, to be clear. The cliosport186, up coming replacement in the Clio range has the enthusium I'm taking about. that Fiat could use to boost sales and image

[Ferrer]

Who said renault sucks? I wish Fiat had some of renaults good qualties.

*On a nother 'note' the Clio sportV6 is the one thats no longer made, to be clear. The cliosport186, up coming replacement in the Clio range has the enthusium I'm taking about. that Fiat could use to boost sales and image

So you bash Fiat on the sole basis of not having a hot version for its new Punto?

Human stupidity never ceases to amaze me...

[Matra et Alpine]

The cliosport186, up coming replacement in the Clio range has the enthusium I'm taking about. that Fiat could use to boost sales and image

You can pre-order your Clio 197 ( guess how much power ) NOW in the UK

[zeta]

So you bash Fiat on the sole basis of not having a hot version for its new Punto?

Human stupidity never ceases to amaze me...

No i'm bashing Fiat for nearly going under and making lame cars for some decades when they are related to ferrari and alfa romeo. How come piinifirinia? couldn't help out with some design and performance n' stuff.

[ZeTurbo]

Cars are a means of transportation. The fact that some companies make cars that are more than that, that are exciting to drive is like a bonus.

Fiat is a very good automaker because they do exactly what they aim to do. They sell economical passenger cars that people need and use in everyday life.

If Fiat solely invested in making theyr cars fast, stylish and enjoyable (as ferrari does) I am quite sure they would make stuning cars.

and for that i do not agree "fiat Sux"

[Pando]

How come piinifirinia? couldn't help out with some design and performance n' stuff.

But dude, they like have.

[zeta]

But dude, they like have.

Really? I thought that would have made a difference.

Well I guess they are what they are. [end thread]

[ZeTurbo]

[end thread]

oh I was going to say something... but you ended this thread... you big meanie...

you keep on surprising me man....

[Ferrer]

Well I was going to say that Fiat will have a hot version of the Punto and Panda and provide some info about them... but as the thread has been ended I won't say it either...

[Matra et Alpine]

Fiat already developed the Punto for the rally Super1600 class.
Hasn't done well against the competition
They also developed one for the Super2000 class but I've not seen one run or it's results.
It looks nice tho' -- though I may have been swayed by the models in skin tight Fiat lycra

[zeta]

oh I was going to say something... but you ended this thread... you big meanie...

you keep on surprising me man....

thought no one cared. And was annoying you with comments and questions.

EDIT: My impresion, why closing.

[Ferrer]

Fiat already developed the Punto for the rally Super1600 class.
Hasn't done well against the competition
They also developed one for the Super2000 class but I've not seen one run or it's results.
It looks nice tho' -- though I may have been swayed by the models in skin tight Fiat lycra

The Super 2000 Punto has won a couple of Italian championship rallyes, and the last European Rally Championship event, in Turkey.

The production Punto Abarth is said to have the Rally car's bodykit, and a 180bhp 1.6-litre turbocharged engine borrowed from the Meriva/Corsa VXR.

[Zytek_Fan]

Remember that Fiat owns Ferrari, Maserati, Alfa Romeo, and Seat