Undisguised VE Commodore/Statesman pics at Carpoint

[adrenaline]

Those inner doors scream territory...

[adrenaline]

!! The following is NOT a commodore (It IS Zeta though...) !!





Apparently its a zeta...look at the wheel arches and general body shape...looks like it has ties with the commodore...(BTW its a chevy malibu)

[Mr. Jinx]

ummm...when I saw this on an American site, it said it was an Impala replacement.

[Falcon500]

It looks like a mazda 6 that was hit by the ugly stick

[Falcon500]

That was the R5, which pretty much was a major peak at what the BA's interior would be like

Also apprently ran a similar AWD setup we currently see in the territory.

The concept rang true a few years later yet the concept failed to draw a croud....funny how holden had a psycadellic looking pannel van which made a splash but flopped later.

Also slick the AV looks similar but had AU sized versions of the BA headlight (similar but slightly diffrent to the r5) and had a much more open mouth front too it.

One thing thats more fondly remberd was a hilliers coupe conversion of the AU which was a real nice conversion and for those wanting to splash out they even had conversion to SVT style motors with larger a twinscrew suprcharger (for that option you would at least have to be screwing the bank managers daughter) which was partially supported by ford but ditched when the ba came around sadly.

[Mr. Jinx]

mmm....bank manager's daughters..

*drools*

[fpv_gtho]

Well it wasnt just the BA, it was the Territory as well as both more or less were put into full development around 1999. Both of which were a total $1B investment, but Ford did get the majority of the funds for the Territory from America, so yeah they wouldve been feeling it more from the BA.

[Falcon500]

Now the though comes if america invested say 1/2 a billion into the territory did they do it to save ford aus or because they where intrested in it? (likly both) but if it could be used in america i cant see why they dont just doit rather then carrying that horrible explorer

But one thing i just thought of is that world cars rarely work look at the J car (camira) and even the rebadged barinas and astras and such they are rarely well liked outside of europe and their parts are exorbantly priced whats to say the zeta platform will hit the mark its already been met with some incredibly varied responses from the country it was primarily designed in

[SlickHolden]

How true why can't FoMoCo invest half of the money into the territory and use it globally like GM with statesman?. Then ford like holden can use more of there own $$$$ in there own market of cars but still use these other cars but not invest as much but make them as good.


I think that white car was confirmed as a FWD car not 100% on that but.

Also apprently ran a similar AWD setup we currently see in the territory.

The concept rang true a few years later yet the concept failed to draw a croud....funny how holden had a psycadellic looking pannel van which made a splash but flopped later.

Also slick the AV looks similar but had AU sized versions of the BA headlight (similar but slightly diffrent to the r5) and had a much more open mouth front too it.

One thing thats more fondly remberd was a hilliers coupe conversion of the AU which was a real nice conversion and for those wanting to splash out they even had conversion to SVT style motors with larger a twinscrew suprcharger (for that option you would at least have to be screwing the bank managers daughter) which was partially supported by ford but ditched when the ba came around sadly.

This must be the car i seen on one of the local mags it wasn't bad. But i guess what was the AU1 was to be it's downfall no matter how much better they made it, The AV would have been a pretty good upgrade with a slight BA rear.

[2ndclasscitizen]

How true why can't FoMoCo invest half of the money into the territory and use it globally like GM with statesman?. Then ford like holden can use more of there own $$$$ in there own market of cars but still use these other cars but not invest as much but make them as good.

The BA architecture wasn't designed with LHD in mind, strangely.

[Falcon500]

The BA architecture wasn't designed with LHD in mind, strangely.

Neither was the mustangs but they made it work with various levels of sucsess but the way i look at it a slight compramise in footwell space and some various other bits and peices (possibly but not garenteed) or a compramise on vehicles driveng some of those similar sized fwd cars which can aptly be described as rubbish....I can tell you what id prefer

[Yorsay1975]

For those of you interested I have a couple of pics of the CAD computer images of the VE Commodore. I don't know whether I can upload them or not due to legal reasons. Can someone let me know if I can upload them or not. They were emailed to me during the week from a friend (who by the way doesn't work for Holden) but is an engineer. I really want to share it all with you but I don't want to get into trouble.

[SlickHolden]

If there computer images they might already be here if it's a couple of VE's SS Executive wagons Utes etc.
If there not allowed here they will be removed.

[SlickHolden]

The BA architecture wasn't designed with LHD in mind, strangely.

I guess they will make LHD if there is a market for it, But on the territory if someone invest half in it then they can do more with it. Like the VE really isn't as similar to the statesman as it has been in the past. Because of the extra funds they got because of the overseas market.

[Yorsay1975]

If there computer images they might already be here if it's a couple of VE's SS Executive wagons Utes etc.
If there not allowed here they will be removed.

Here are the pics I have. Hopefully they haven't been posted before. Enjoy!