Opinions on BA Falcon and VY Commodore design

[Falcon500]

well at least it creates jobs and give holden a decent donk to put in their car.The thing im wondering about is what ever did happen to holdens idea of making a 239 kw turbo v6?

[fpv_gtho]

more like it was saabs idea and holden also wanted the engine

[Falcon500]

well i done a little more reading and apprently holden has jumped off that band wagon for now but they think itll be a viable option in the fore seeable future not that their was anything wrong with the superchaging they offerd....

[fpv_gtho]

yeah right there was nothing wrong with it. ud expect a supercharger would produce more than 20-30kw, they werent running as little boost as the xr6t, it had about 10psi

[Falcon500]

for a stock non performance application that isnt too bad that v6 is not a performance motor its just built to pull holdens base model barges and to add a little sportier flavor to its dull v6 range

[fpv_gtho]

it was a performance motor, hsv used it in the xu6 and chev used it in the monte carlo ss. only trucks come with compressors on the motors for reasons other than performance

[Falcon500]

You couldent call it performance sporty maybey but in the whale of a HSV its just a ****ing heavy commadore S.

[fpv_gtho]

it wasnt that heavy, only about 1600kg. they marketed it as an entry level hsv, but at $50K it stood no chance against the xr6t so they dropped it. they should have stuck the 180kw version in the s supercharged

[Falcon500]

No its not that heavy people claim my XY falcons a tank and it only weighs 1300! the Xu6 was alsways a limp wristed things which they had trouble giving away! That would of prbably been the reson why they ditched it they were always slower then XR6s even since the first of both came out in about 93-94.

[fpv_gtho]

the xu6 wasnt slow, i think ive seen one do 0-100km/h in about 7.0 secs, which an xr6 hasnt beaten. they ditched it cause ford released the xr6 turbo which even with only 6 psi coming from the hairdryer would have ruined the xu6's image

[crisis]

XR6s and S commodores are really just show cars. If you want perfomance you wont worry with a 6 unless its turbo'd, you buy a V8.

[fpv_gtho]

people who'd wanna severly tune the car up aftermarket would choose the 6 ova the boss v8

[crisis]

Why would Holden reinvent the wheel. I cant understand why Ford doesnt use a US sourced finished product. The company is better of spending the developement bucks in one area than spreading it over a heap of subsidiaries.

[fpv_gtho]

maybe its just me but that last post of urs seems a bit off topic

[crisis]

Originally posted by fpv_gtho
maybe its just me but that last post of urs seems a bit off topic

No its just me. I read the previous page. However back on topic I would rather spend $10000 on a supercharger for a V8 than for a V6. Further to that with the power available in the V8 you may not need more. What am I saying!