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    Quote Originally Posted by jediali
    i understand that, but aggressive timing cant always be varied on the fly (an engine that adapts, such as FSI) however if you put regular petrol into an engine with this aggressive timing it will pre-combust (knock,pink..). Thus in this case how can the stang' engine use both regular and fuel without pre-combustion and take advantage of the higher octane rating of better fuels! with a single engine setup? - Or is he going to play with his valve/ignition timing himself?
    Modern car engine management is preprogrammed to run on a specified octane. For our purposes let's use 93. So you put 93 in it, and it's quality fuel. No pinging/knocking. The knock sensor doesn't have to adapt the ECU for anything. Next tank of fuel, you can only get 91. Obviously this isn't ideal. There will be some preignition of the A/F mix. The knock sensor reads this, and backs the timing down as needed.

    That's all the KS is able to do. If IWAARS really wanted to get the maximum potential out of this beast, he'd need to re-dyno tune the motor's management while using quality 95 or 98 or whatever's available octane.

    Putting a higher octane fuel than required in a motor is not required, and you will see no benefit from it at all.
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    This is a car from the 60's, I doubt it has a knock sensor. Hell, unless it's a new engine, it still might use leaded fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingofthering
    This is a car from the 60's, I doubt it has a knock sensor. Hell, unless it's a new engine, it still might use leaded fuel.
    I'm pretty sure muscle cars like this one in their original state used unleaded fuel. Not only that but it is a new all aluminum engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingofthering
    This is a car from the 60's, I doubt it has a knock sensor. Hell, unless it's a new engine, it still might use leaded fuel.
    Eleanors are hardly factory original...
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    And for $125,000 it better not just be a straight up carb setup. I'd like my built, nitrous injected motor to be a little more precise than that. Standalone ftw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiggs
    And for $125,000 it better not just be a straight up carb setup. I'd like my built, nitrous injected motor to be a little more precise than that. Standalone ftw.
    I'd want quad turbos for that kind of cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiggs
    Modern car engine management is preprogrammed to run on a specified octane. For our purposes let's use 93. So you put 93 in it, and it's quality fuel. No pinging/knocking. The knock sensor doesn't have to adapt the ECU for anything. Next tank of fuel, you can only get 91. Obviously this isn't ideal. There will be some preignition of the A/F mix. The knock sensor reads this, and backs the timing down as needed.

    That's all the KS is able to do. If IWAARS really wanted to get the maximum potential out of this beast, he'd need to re-dyno tune the motor's management while using quality 95 or 98 or whatever's available octane.

    Putting a higher octane fuel than required in a motor is not required, and you will see no benefit from it at all.
    Thanks Quiggs, if thats the case then i would introduce a system that retards and advances the timing.
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    Well folks.

    40 minutes left.

    I have now realised the enormity, and I have prepared the rope and the rafter so I can hang myself

    Not.

    If I win this ****ing thing... then I'll place the $2000 deposit, then go out to get the car, then shoot him, and then make off with it.

    $2000 for Eleanor? ****in' A

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    The reserve isn't met, so I don't see the problem.
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    There is always that... just turn down the (unlikely) Second Chance Offer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Tiv
    The reserve isn't met, so I don't see the problem.
    Well, his maximum bid is 150k, so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esperante
    Well, his maximum bid is 150k, so...
    another person would have to have bid.
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    Let's pray you get outbid... But still you get that, I'd run over in a flash with my camera, but I'm not going for a drive with you in it... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waugh-terfall
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