How much do accountants know about cars??

[clutch-monkey]

biscuit can.

i concur.

edit: rusty biscuit can.

[nota]

biscuit can.

Ah but at what size-point does a can become a sedan, eh man?

[henk4]

Ah but at what size-point does a can become a sedan, eh man?

when you can put in "stroopwafels",

or turn it into a Riley Kestrel...

[Ferrer]

I never said that Mercedes was the first to do it, I just quoted the CLS as a current example....If I had mentioned the Rover few people would have immediately understood what I was talking about.

For the record: I would not have made this post if you had not started yours with the pedantic word "Again".....

Again referring to the fact that you mentioned british cars as early examples of 2-door saloons and Britain again were first to introduce the 4-door coupe concept. Not referring to the fact that this car has already been mentioned on this forum several times...

No offense taken, I hope.

[nota]

or turn it into a Riley Kestrel...

But why do vehicles need to have a protruding boot (ie be of 3-box design) to reach sedan status?

[henk4]

Again referring to the fact that you mentioned british cars as early examples of 2-door saloons and Britain again were first to introduce the 4-door coupe concept. Not referring to the fact that this car has already been mentioned on this forum several times...

No offense taken, I hope.

I just gave a few examples without trying to be historically correct on who was first with what. I just happened to come across the Alvis and the Aston when I was trying to correctly rename my pictures
(and if I remember correctly it was me who put the Rover in the oddball corner)

[henk4]

But why do vehicles need to have a protruding boot (ie be of 3-box design) to reach sedan status?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sedan

good question

[h00t_h00t]

What would be your body-type classification of the original Mini? (not a hatchback)

An exception.

Ah but at what size-point does a can become a sedan, eh man?

When its an Austin 1100?

(Bang goes all of my knowledge of old British cars in one post.)

[The_Canuck]

Please explain why the 2-door variant is NOT a sedan?

Because its a coupe?

[nota]

An exception.

Additional exceptions would include Honda Scamp and other 'Kei' cars, the Fiat 126, maybe 127 & Alfasud, and more

Don't forget those older diminutive 2-box saloons like the hugely popular 2-door Austin 7 (pic) plus too many other oldies to mention!

When its an Austin 1100?

(Bang goes all of my knowledge of old British cars in one post.)

I'd thought of mentioning those ADO16s which are basically an upscaled Mini. But I'm curious why there is (supposedly) a size cut-off point where 2-box non-hatchbacks should be regarded as saloons, at what length or wb is that, and who determined this?

[nota]

Because its a coupe? :P

Explain why is it a coupe..?

The 2-door cabin is of identical dimension & proportion to the 4-door sedan

[The_Canuck]

Explain why is it a coupe..?

The 2-door cabin is of identical dimension & proportion to the 4-door sedan

In my mind, 2 doors is a coupe, 4 is a sedan. If its called anything else it's purely marketing.

but thats just so my head doesn't explode

[nota]

In my mind, 2 doors is a coupe, 4 is a sedan. If its called anything else it's purely marketing.

Conversely, to my mind, marketing is when you try to label a Cortina 2-door sedan as a coupe!

It's not even pillarless

[henk4]

if somebody would have cared to look at the definition which I linked you to, you might have seen that a sedan is 2-4 door closed car with 4 seats (rear and front row), to illustrate what a sedan is the "source" shows a pic of the 4-door Fiat Tempra Hatchback.
A coupe has (should have) two seats, but 2+2 concepts have been in use all over the place. A Porsche 911 was once homologated as a touring car, implying that it is a sedan

[nota]

A coupe has (should have) two seats, but 2+2 concepts have been in use all over the place.

You seem to imply that coupes should be restricted to 2-seaters. I disagree ..

For instance this (5 passenger) 1946 Ford Coupe has two seats - one in the front, and another in the back!

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...e/330837.html#

Note the difference in profile between the above 'close coupled' Coupe, and Ford's 1946 Tudor sedan model below

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...or/388407.html

(sorry, can't save the relevant pics to download)