Volkswagen Group versus Ford Group

[Fleet 500]

Well.. Fleet's so good he doesn't even want crumple zones!

Right.

-Fleet
(almost 28 years of driving with no on-the-road accidents and no speeding or parking tickets.)

[kingofthering]

You might be a good driver, but what about the other 2 million drivers?

Like that girl I saw take her hand off the wheel in the middle of the corner to check her messages.

[Fleet 500]

You might be a good driver, but what about the other 2 million drivers?

Like that girl I saw take her hand off the wheel in the middle of the corner to check her messages.

One way I've avoided accidents is keeping an eye out for that kind of driver.

[nota]

They aren't "my" tests, they are from Car & Driver.

That's much more like it. I knew Australian saloons were good, but all that performance and those fuel consumption figures were simply amazing...

I wouldn't gloat too much. Going by 'your' test figures (ex-C&D) it's clear than the cheapest, slowest, most basic-spec Ford Falcon 6cyl is a more powerful and (no surprise) faster machine than those awesome Crown Victoria V8 Police Interceptors. As are LWB Holdens even when equipped with the smallest (3.6 litre V6) engine

[jediali]

One way I've avoided accidents is keeping an eye out for that kind of driver.

don't go the arogant route, it won't help your case. If you can't admit accidents might happen regardless of your skill/experience then we are unlikely to believe your 28 years driving experience.

[Fleet 500]

don't go the arogant route, it won't help your case. If you can't admit accidents might happen regardless of your skill/experience then we are unlikely to believe your 28 years driving experience.

You've never heard of the term "defensive driving?"
As for my driving experience, would you like a DMW printout of my records? ;-)

[Fleet 500]

I wouldn't gloat too much. Going by 'your' test figures (ex-C&D) it's clear than the cheapest, slowest, most basic-spec Ford Falcon 6cyl is a more powerful and (no surprise) faster machine than those awesome Crown Victoria V8 Police Interceptors. As are LWB Holdens even when equipped with the smallest (3.6 litre V6) engine

But there is a very good reason why the Crown Vics are used as police cars and taxi cabs... they hold up to rugged and severe use.
And, nobody can outrun a radio so there's no reason for more powerful Crown Vics (although in the '60s, the police cars were much more powerful and faster than the modern CVs.

[Ferrer]

But there is a very good reason why the Crown Vics are used as police cars and taxi cabs... they hold up to rugged and severe use.
And, nobody can outrun a radio so there's no reason for more powerful Crown Vics (although in the '60s, the police cars were much more powerful and faster than the modern CVs.

The Falcons and Commodores are used as police cars too, so they are strong too. And by the way evern the mid-90's Caprice and Impala polica cars were faster than current Crown Vics, weren't they?

[jediali]

You've never heard of the term "defensive driving?"
As for my driving experience, would you like a DMW printout of my records? ;-)

i think your missing the point, your immaculate records might support your cliam that you will nevar have an accident if your driving on empty streets,however you arent superman and are not able to avoid all accidents involving worse drivers. no one is.

[henk4]

i think your missing the point

should become the standard opening phrase in reply to any of Fleet's posts..

[Fleet 500]

should become the standard opening phrase in reply to any of Fleet's posts..

Me thinks you know I am right about things more often than you care to admit. That's why you keep taking jabs at me.

[Fleet 500]

i think your missing the point, your immaculate records might support your cliam that you will nevar have an accident if your driving on empty streets,however you arent superman and are not able to avoid all accidents involving worse drivers. no one is.

Out here in the San Fernando Valley, with a population of 1.8 million people, there are very few empty streets! There were about 40 or 50 years ago, but not anymore.

[jediali]

Out here in the San Fernando Valley, with a population of 1.8 million people, there are very few empty streets! There were about 40 or 50 years ago, but not anymore.

sooo...there are more unpredictable drivers on the road increasing the chance of an accident regardless of defensive driving

[Fleet 500]

sooo...there are more unpredictable drivers on the road increasing the chance of an accident regardless of defensive driving

Of course there is. I never said otherwise.
I find it amusing how some members here nitpick every sentence I post!

[jediali]

Right.

-Fleet
(almost 28 years of driving with no on-the-road accidents and no speeding or parking tickets.)

Am i right to assume that from this post you think you don't need crumple zones because you have almost 28 years of driving with no on-the-road accidents and no speeding or parking tickets?