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    Is it lighter than an Enzo or just about the same weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXType-R View Post
    Is it lighter than an Enzo or just about the same weight?
    If I remember correctly it's about 100 kgs lighter than the original Enzo.

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    That's quite drastic then.

    I can imagine all the Enzo owners out there to be quite jealous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXType-R View Post
    That's quite drastic then.

    I can imagine all the Enzo owners out there to be quite jealous.
    What do they care? Most of them just park it in a glass cube and leave it alone for years.

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    True, but I'm sure the enthusiasts that do drive it often would like the extra bit in performance and looks.

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    i guess its a 612 because it has a 6 Liter 12 cylinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolieman1220 View Post
    i guess its a 612 because it has a 6 Liter 12 cylinder
    I have seen the car being called 612 P 4/5 quite often, but as Napolis said, the official name is "Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina". It kinda makes me remember when the Enzo Ferrari was called F60. Even Top Gear referred to it as the F60 when they tested it...

    As for 612, V12-engined Ferrari are named using the displacement of one cylinder. For example, the 365 Daytona has a 4380 cc V12 engine. V6 and V8-engined Ferraris use the total displacement as the first two digits and the number of cylinders as the third. This name scheme isn't respected anymore, for example the 612 Scaglietti has a 5.7-liter V12 engine, so following Ferrari's original tradition it should have been named 479 Scaglietti. I'm quite sure Ferrari changed the naming scheme because of several models sharing the same engine size, for example the 575M Maranello, the Superamerica and the 612 Scaglietti all share the same engine size. Having different models sharing the same name would be quite confusing for the buyer. Just think about all the 250 models...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fisetdavid26 View Post
    I have seen the car being called 612 P 4/5 quite often, but as Napolis said, the official name is "Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina". It kinda makes me remember when the Enzo Ferrari was called F60. Even Top Gear referred to it as the F60 when they tested it...

    As for 612, V12-engined Ferrari are named using the displacement of one cylinder. For example, the 365 Daytona has a 4380 cc V12 engine. V6 and V8-engined Ferraris use the total displacement as the first two digits and the number of cylinders as the third. This name scheme isn't respected anymore, for example the 612 Scaglietti has a 5.7-liter V12 engine, so following Ferrari's original tradition it should have been named 479 Scaglietti. I'm quite sure Ferrari changed the naming scheme because of several models sharing the same engine size, for example the 575M Maranello, the Superamerica and the 612 Scaglietti all share the same engine size. Having different models sharing the same name would be quite confusing for the buyer. Just think about all the 250 models...
    AFAIK the last Ferrari to use the old unitary capacity number was the 456 GT. However as early as the 60's Ferrari started using total capacity and number of cylinders in the 412P racer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    AFAIK the last Ferrari to use the old unitary capacity number was the 456 GT. However as early as the 60's Ferrari started using total capacity and number of cylinders in the 412P racer.
    what about the 1512, the 1.5 liter flat 12 F1 car from 1964....
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    what about the 1512, the 1.5 liter flat 12 F1 car from 1964....
    156 in 1957 ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    what about the 1512, the 1.5 liter flat 12 F1 car from 1964....
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    156 in 1957 ...
    Then in the 50's they started.
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