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    Dehydration is a S.O.B eh? dont worry, im only doing 11 hours days
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiggs View Post
    OMG VAYREN NEVAR LOOSES u guys r noobs, teh vayren has 3000hpz but looses 2000 2 heat n stuff lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANOBLEman
    I'd rather have a lightweight track car with a rougher ride and interior (Ultima GTR720, McLaren F1LM, etc.) than a 2-ton car with a huge engine that can only go in a straight line well.
    Oh really?

    Well I'm sure Bugatti will be saddened by the loss of your business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P4g4nite View Post
    Oh really?

    Well I'm sure Bugatti will be saddened by the loss of your business.
    The funny thing is that they would rather you didn't buy the Veyron as they loose huge amounts of money every time they build one

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    A more efficient and effective pushrod!!!!
    Got proof? Nope? didnt think so....

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    The Bug is like what the Titanic was intended to be: Opulent, imposing and faster than anything else out there.
    It is telling that anything which matches the Bug in 1 area can do so only by [being] severely compromised [in] others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hightower99 View Post
    The funny thing is that they would rather you didn't buy the Veyron as they loose huge amounts of money every time they build one
    its a poster car! people don't need to buy it, it just exists to adorn posters on spotty teenagers walls (no offence waugh ). Besides we all piech never got enough kicks from the perfect phaeton so went further to massage his ego with the veyron.
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    Got proof? Nope? didnt think so....
    I'm willing to work with ht99 on this one.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by P4g4nite View Post
    Oh really?

    Well I'm sure Bugatti will be saddened by the loss of your business.
    They lost my business when I first saw the concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hightower99 View Post
    The funny thing is that they would rather you didn't buy the Veyron as they loose huge amounts of money every time they build one
    Well, in reality it isn't quite this simple. For instance most of the losses were already made before the first finished Veyron rolled out of the factory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pando View Post
    Well, in reality it isn't quite this simple. For instance most of the losses were already made before the first finished Veyron rolled out of the factory.
    Didn't they cost like 3 million to build or something?
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    Got proof? Nope? didnt think so....
    Using ricer mentality that many here seem to love when bagging pushrods..........the Veyron needs 4 turbos and 8 odd L to achieve a measly 1000hp.

    Now the turbo rule as used in most racing clubs of 1.5 (per turbo) x 4 (for the 4 turbos used in the Bugatti) + 8 (for engine displacement). So what you have is 14L to achieve 1000hp........which is 71.43hp per litre. The Ultima GTR640 on the other hand using the humble 6.2L Chev engine pumps out a stunning 640hp without forced induction, this equates to 103hp per litre.

    If you take this further and even the two engines out by adding an extra 7.8L for the Ultima to equal the Bugattis 14L total capacity then you get a monsterous 640hp + (7.8 x 103)hp = 640hp + 803.4hp = 1443.4hp

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    Quote Originally Posted by monaroCountry View Post
    Using ricer mentality that many here seem to love when bagging pushrods..........the Veyron needs 4 turbos and 8 odd L to achieve a measly 1000hp.

    Now the turbo rule as used in most racing clubs of 1.5 (per turbo) x 4 (for the 4 turbos used in the Bugatti) + 8 (for engine displacement). So what you have is 14L to achieve 1000hp........which is 71.43hp per litre. The Ultima GTR640 on the other hand using the humble 6.2L Chev engine pumps out a stunning 640hp without forced induction, this equates to 103hp per litre.

    If you take this further and even the two engines out by adding an extra 7.8L for the Ultima to equal the Bugattis 14L total capacity then you get a monsterous 640hp + (7.8 x 103)hp = 640hp + 803.4hp = 1443.4hp
    Boost Varies.

    There are also many DOHC engines that can attain over 100hp/l what is your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MC
    Using ricer mentality that many here seem to love when bagging pushrods..........the Veyron needs 4 turbos and 8 odd L to achieve a measly 1000hp.
    Nontheless, the Veyron produces a conservative 125hp/L while the race tuned Chev gets just over 100, the Veyron makes use of the exhaust power the Chev chooses to waste, so the Bug is the more efficient.
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    Nontheless, the Veyron produces a conservative 125hp/L while the race tuned Chev gets just over 100, the Veyron makes use of the exhaust power the Chev chooses to waste, so the Bug is the more efficient.
    Now compare this to drag cars and their power per L!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Canuck View Post
    Boost Varies.

    There are also many DOHC engines that can attain over 100hp/l what is your point?

    My point is that since people can justify and say that Chev V8's are not effecient because of their hp/L.......then why not the Veyron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monaroCountry View Post
    My point is that since people can justify and say that Chev V8's are not effecient because of their hp/L.......then why not the Veyron?
    Because it goes 253mph. Nobody gives a f*** what the hp/l is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by monaroCountry View Post
    Now compare this to drag cars and their power per L!!!!!!!
    By drag cars I assume you mean funny and top fuel dragsters. Now what goal would that accomplish? You cannot possible compare the two because the only similarities between the bug and a top fuel drag car include the steering wheel, 4 wheels (however disproportionate), and internal combustion. If we drove cars with similar hp/l, we would need to strip down the engine, replace all the gaskets and valves, ect... after every drive and simply accecpt that. Boy would that be fun.
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