Breakthrough Tech or Breakthrough Scam?

[Matra et Alpine]

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[acfsambo]

It also says that the exhaust is burned in the cat, "It works by breaking down the large gas molecules that were not burned in your engine and turns them into smaller particles that can be burned in your tailpipe before being released into the air, so less exhaust hits the environment."

Also the video is just a compressor. The 'exhaust pipe' that he is breathing in in the video also goes to the 'fuel'(cough) which is being pushed by the air.

SCAM

[MadMax13]

Seems like yet ANOTHER "Get Mileage Quick" scheme...

[Kooper]

Things that immediately look suspicious:

"Every car has a Catalytic Converter" - False
"five times the gas mileage!" - Doubtable, highly doubtable


Other things that make me wonder just a bit are the high amount of "!", "Save now!" and especially the liberal use of supposed scientific claims, formulas and percentages.


Lastly, as one of my favorite motoring magazines once summed it up, if this product is truly as incredible as its makers claim, why then haven't any motoring manufacturers, oil companies or automotive suppliers incorporated something similar in their products? Especially considering they spend billions and hire the cream of the crop engineers and scientists...


I call BS.


EDIT: Or pretty much what most other posters in this thread already said

[ilikefast]

Surely it is obvious that this is not true. They want me to add another catalytic converter? HA HA Please, I don't want the one I have on there now! The 'science' mumbo jumbo on the site reads like a Christmas cracker joke page. At one point they say efficiency increased by 9 times. A normal combustion engine runs at 15% efficiency... I would not be surprised if the company CEO was also a yogic flying wizard of Oz. My question is why are these kinds of posts even allowed, when they bring down the quality of the forum as a whole?

[kingofthering]

My question is why are these kinds of posts even allowed, when they bring down the quality of the forum as a whole?

Well...it is a semi-public forum, it follows the rules, and he wants to know how true this is, so...yeah, it's ok.

[Kooper]

Surely it is obvious that this is not true. They want me to add another catalytic converter? HA HA Please, I don't want the one I have on there now! The 'science' mumbo jumbo on the site reads like a Christmas cracker joke page. At one point they say efficiency increased by 9 times. A normal combustion engine runs at 15% efficiency... I would not be surprised if the company CEO was also a yogic flying wizard of Oz. My question is why are these kinds of posts even allowed, when they bring down the quality of the forum as a whole?

I agree with most of your comments, except for the forum-bit. It's a discussion forum, which is what this is. A discussion.

How is this post degrading the quality of the forum?

[deffenbaugh03]

Surely it is obvious that this is not true. They want me to add another catalytic converter? HA HA Please, I don't want the one I have on there now! The 'science' mumbo jumbo on the site reads like a Christmas cracker joke page. At one point they say efficiency increased by 9 times. A normal combustion engine runs at 15% efficiency... I would not be surprised if the company CEO was also a yogic flying wizard of Oz. My question is why are these kinds of posts even allowed, when they bring down the quality of the forum as a whole?

Chill. I wasn't trying to advertise the product and I said I doubted it worked. How does it bring down the quality of the forum? Sit back, relax and laugh at the scam.

[Matra et Alpine]

[NSXType-R]

Scams like this really grind my gears. It reminds me of all the ads in the back of Popular Science or Popular Mechanics. Annoying as hell.

Avoid at all costs!

[ilikefast]

Kingofthering, thanks for your reply. I am not a heavy poster, but I am a heavy reader and help run a forum in another industry. It is in that capacity especially that you see links to and discussions started about obvious scams that on occasion are placed by less scrupulous operators. It is obvious that deffenbaugh03 is not one of these people (given the posts and member status) and my response was not an attack on his post, but about ones of this type in general. Sure, the link is funny, but what would stop anyone else linking to there own spam style site under the guise of humour? In response to kooper & deffenbaugh03's question of degradation of quality, my thinking was that, like a sliding slope, what is to stop masses of low value ad links or the like being placed... and that over time this would discourage contributors of high value with good knowledge visiting/contributing. Bringing down the whole. Perhaps this was the wrong spot for me even to ask this to begin with- but alas it was late and I posted it all as one.

[Celemar]

"in other words, what if we “cracked” the gas and broke it down into smaller particles before it went into the engine"

I’m no expert in Chemistry, but if you take the molecules that make up fuel (gas/petrol) and brake them up, you’ll be left with their base elements, which surely isn’t fuel anymore.

It’s like taking H2O, braking it up will leave you with 2 hydrogen, and 1 oxygen, that’s not water anymore, you can’t drink that…
like I say I’m no expert, so I could be wrong

[MRR]

This happens when you put cola in the engine oil and beer in the gas tank.

So is that how you study automotive engineering in the Netherlands?

[kingofthering]

So is that how you study automotive engineering in the Netherlands?

superroflcopterz

[MRR]

superroflcopterz

Sorry I couldn't resist