Purchasing a new car in the fall

[Fiorano]

I have been looking for a new car as well, my nissan 240 is just tired and keeps breaking sensors and what not (it is 1995)
i am looking under 30 K which means no camaro-challenger-pontiac i mean Holden G8GXP WRX-Evo...and no SrT-4 turbo'sanymore
i am looking at Cobalt SS turbo, mustang GT, HHR SS? opinions thoughts?

[Ferrer]

I have been looking for a new car as well, my nissan 240 is just tired and keeps breaking sensors and what not (it is 1995)
i am looking under 30 K which means no camaro-challenger-pontiac i mean Holden G8GXP WRX-Evo...and no SrT-4 turbo'sanymore
i am looking at Cobalt SS turbo, mustang GT, HHR SS? opinions thoughts?

I'd go for the Mustang. Cheap RWD V8 fun.

[Pando]

Well, where I live is pretty much all hills and you should see the assortment of cars we get. Many cars that you would never expect have no trouble at all. My friends GTI is actually one heck of a car in the snow, except where clearance becomes an issue and he starts pushing a pile of snow with the front end. AWD definitely adds something, but it's not necessarily required for winter driving and often adds a false sense of security.

Well, I have to say I've never been to Idaho. I don't know what kind of roads you guys have and how(/if) they are maintained in winter time.

As far as winter driving is concerned good tires get you further than 4-wheel traction, but it's often a plus. In my opinion.

On highways and main roads it doesn't really matter, they are usually kept in quite good shape, but as I was saying in the country side, on icy gravel roads with little or no winter maintenance there can be problems.

I have had my moments of horror myself in 2wd cars as i was pushing up icy slopes and all of a sudden all I was getting was low rev wheel spin. As I applied the breaks the car started sliding downhill - backwards, with the wheels locked or not. Luckily that has only happened in straight slopes where the car was retreating down the same tracks as it came up.

I've attached two pictures I found to clear it up.

The snowy picture: There probably isn't much of a difference between FWD/AWD when it comes to "normal" elevation and driving. (I am aware that the normal is very subjective)

The summer-time picture: Add a bit of steep hills and ice and you'd be peeing your pants with 2wd.

I don't know if you agree or not? I've never owned an AWD car, the times I haven't been able to make it with 2WD I could probably count on one hand. But still, it has happened.

Would I think I need AWD if I was living in Finland again? No. Would I prefer AWD if I was driving as my job throughout the winter? Yes.

I have been looking for a new car as well, my nissan 240 is just tired and keeps breaking sensors and what not (it is 1995)
i am looking under 30 K which means no camaro-challenger-pontiac i mean Holden G8GXP WRX-Evo...and no SrT-4 turbo'sanymore
i am looking at Cobalt SS turbo, mustang GT, HHR SS? opinions thoughts?

Your avatar suggests Sweden, your name Italy, your flag says Antarctica but your post suggests both US and AU. Location & currency will help us help you.

[Ferrer]

Would I think I need AWD if I was living in Finland again? No. Would I prefer AWD if I was driving as my job throughout the winter? Yes.
Your avatar suggests Sweden, your name Italy, your flag says Antarctica but your post suggests both US and AU. Location & currency will help us help you.

His post suggests US, I doubt the Mustang is sold outside America (and Canada).

[Rasmus]

I have been looking for a new car as well, my nissan 240 is just tired and keeps breaking sensors and what not (it is 1995)
i am looking under 30 K which means no camaro-challenger-pontiac i mean Holden G8GXP WRX-Evo...and no SrT-4 turbo'sanymore
i am looking at Cobalt SS turbo, mustang GT, HHR SS? opinions thoughts?

I got the Mustang GT. No regrets.

The new Cobalt SS is actually surprisingly fast around a track - but it's still a Cobalt.
The HHR is just that, an HHR.

And yes, the Mustang is sold outside the US. I think it's about $160k for a GT vert in Denmark. Something completely ridiculous like that anyway.

[clutch-monkey]

$125k AUD for a GT stang here i think, one of the optioned up versions maybe, not sure.

[LeonOfTheDead]

here about 50/60.000 euro for a good equipped GT or even a 350 Shelby.
all of those aren't officially sold but just imported though.

[NSXType-R]

here about 50/60.000 euro for a good equipped GT or even a 350 Shelby.
all of those aren't officially sold but just imported though.

Is the Mustang "cool" in Italy?

Or do they think it's garbage?

I personally wouldn't get a Mustang. Ever. But that's just my opinion, of course.

[Ferrer]

here about 50/60.000 euro for a good equipped GT or even a 350 Shelby.
all of those aren't officially sold but just imported though.

I've seen grey import GTs going for about 50 grand here as well.

Which is far too much money for such a car.

[LeonOfTheDead]

I've seen grey import GTs going for about 50 grand here as well.

Which is far too much money for such a car.

true, their real value is about 20/25.000 euro just converting from dollar to euro.
but at both prices, it's too big, has a huge engine freaking expensive to insurance, and drinks fuel as nothing. Z4 coupe, Cayman, Brera, 3 Series, A5, CLK and more...there are so much better options for our markets.

I would consider the Mustang only if I lived in North America.

[Ferrer]

true, their real value is about 20/25.000 euro just converting from dollar to euro.
but at both prices, it's too big, has a huge engine freaking expensive to insurance, and drinks fuel as nothing. Z4 coupe, Cayman, Brera, 3 Series, A5, CLK and more...there are so much better options for our markets.

50.000€ is more or less what a 335i Coupe costs here, which is better than the Ford in every conceibable way.

I would consider the Mustang only if I lived in North America.

Or if it was sold here at US prices.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Or if it was sold here at US prices.

I suppose the fuel should come at the same price

[Ferrer]

I suppose the fuel should come at the same price

Yes that'd help, but even so if a V8 Mustang cost here 20 or 25 grand I'd consider it.

[acuSI]

the evo is mad mad fun to drive i test drove a GSR it was fast as hell and sounds great especially if u put in an aftermarket filter u can hear the blowoff valve... mmmm