VW Jetta
Mecedes S class
Cadillac CTS
BMW 3 series
Audi A4
Lincoln Continental
So now that I have chastised FastDriver, I hope he takes this as just a bump in the road and joins in the talks here. Remember, even some of us who know we are right all the time have been proven wrong... damn it.
BTW, it appears that Chrysler was the first to have electronic ABS with GM and Nissan nipping at their heals and all well before the 1980s.
Anti-lock braking system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The automotive navigation page seems to mention a number of different technologies. If Wiki is to be believed (and I have used it liberally in the past) then Olds was actually the first with GPS satellite navigation in a production car. Mitsubishi and Pioneer claim earlier non-GPS but satellite based systems.
So in the end I will go with none of the above because it appears Mercedes wasn't first with any of the four technologies. Given that the Olds with GPS nav would have had airbags, likely ABS and certainly, by law, 3 point belts it appears the winner is the Oldsmobile 88!
What do I win?
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_navigation_system"]Automotive navigation system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
So really, what do I win for finding the first car with all four technologies?
Honda actually made a mechanically-based navigation system.
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro_Gyrocator"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro_Gyrocator[/ame]
Of course, the 1981 Accord probably didn't have ABS. Or airbags.
edit - But the 1990 Eunos Cosmo not only came with what looks like an airbag, it also had ABS, three-point-belts, AND GPS navigation. So do I win?
Last edited by kingofthering; 04-30-2011 at 02:03 PM.
I'm dropping out to create a company that starts with motorcycles, then cars, and forty years later signs a legendary Brazilian driver who has a public and expensive feud with his French teammate.
I named the Olds system as first not because it I thought it was the first car nav system or the first installed in a car. In this case it appears to be the first factory installed system. I wonder what FastDriver was specifically thinking of when he started the pole. Was it first car with a GPS nav screen (I could believe the GM system didn't have a traditional color LCD nav screen)?
FastDriver,
What specifics were you thinking with this question? You said MB S-class. Was this based on something you had read or some details such as the S-class likely being first with airbags in Europe? Looking at the Olds system it wasn't exactly better integrated than most aftermarket systems so it would be reasonable to claim it was basically a factory installed after market system.
Last edited by culver; 05-01-2011 at 07:30 PM.
I was basing this off of wikipedia which as i know is not entirely reliiable, so I guess it was kind of a gray area with many possible answers. So i deemed this thread closed. except i cant close it. so its still open
Which systems did you have specifically in mind? The S-class probably was the first if we narrow some of the criteria. Like I said with the nav system, it appears that the Olds system wasn't better integrated than an aftermarket solution so perhaps it shouldn't count.
Yes, but it would have been nice if you apologized for telling me I was wrong rather than stating that you were over it
oh ok, well i appologize for dismissing your answer so quickly. That was my bad
now that the peace treaty has been officially signed, do we want to leave the thread open or shall I close it?
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