listen, i had enough of the wannabe-non-wannabe discussion. what i have seen on the tracks a supra is a great car wich also is able to provide both looks and performance. BUT its all about the MK5 supra as the topic says. well i must say the first drawing in this forum looks like a quite cool car, although i dont know why they HAD to put the space-subject into the car... a pity, the MK4 looks better according to me... the second drawing... is that a celica chassis or what? put it away please . supra should be the big bad brother. not a tuned up twin bro. i sure hope some1 can tell some news about the mk5 and have a picture or something, if they wanna release the car @ 2005. there should be a chassis and all. pls reply something nice and usefull. (or just cool)