Yes and ford still has more championships holden would need to win somthing like 9 more years in a row for that i think that consistancy counts for somthing. We have won the chmapionship 2 times in this catigory coupled with the fact that with the EB falcon we won 85% of the races and 75% of the races with the EL falcons can you really compare to that? amd dont argue with me about them figures argue with mark oastler the man who printed them in his fine magizine Australian muscle car.