One of the kids (~17) at the local bike shop was telling me several weeks ago he could power slide his mother's Camery around the corners on the way to the shop. I commented on my brief experence in driving a Camery that understeer was the order of the day, but if seriously provoked it could possibly snap to oversteer - but I pulled back before then due to me expecting that I would require a change of underwear afterwards. He then proceded to tell me it is perfectly happy to power slide and there was nothing scary about it even at up to 150kph.
The other day he was boasting that he had just purchased a E30 325e, and that this was the best handling car ever, and when he was working on it he had remover the muffler - making it sound like a Spitfire. The sound description is debatable, but when I mentioned that I had been taken out in the CCR the day before and suspected that the handling claim could be a little optimistic it was quickly pointed out that the CCR was never going too be as good as the McLaren F1 and it was overpriced. I took this no further.