Lotus Europa

[sunk]

Front and they'd ahve resurrected the Elan name.
For the Europa it HAS to be light and mid
Esprit for the big heavier bruiser for the US market

The name Elan for a GT? They were quick and nimble sports
But the Espirit will be heartily welcomed here

[Matra et Alpine]

The name Elan for a GT? They were quick and nimble sports
But the Espirit will be heartily welcomed here

I meant if they were doing a front engined sports car it woudl be the Elan.

The S 2+2 was a "GT" version of the Elan.
Family-oriented ( well as much as Lotus ever did in those days before the Eclat )

[nota]

I'm not doubting that current Lotii are more long lasting than previous models, but geez .. the thought of it!

Traditional Lotus durability standards combined with existing Proton build quality

[Esperante]

Where these cars finished in blue from the factory at all? I'm building a model of one that I already painted a deep blue.

[henk4]

Where these cars finished in blue from the factory at all? I'm building a model of one that I already painted a deep blue.

restored examples can have any colour

[sunk]

I'm not doubting that current Lotii are more long lasting than previous models, but geez .. the thought of it!

Traditional Lotus durability standards combined with existing Proton build quality

Ah! come on, they must've improved their quality and stardards

However, the article says that Espirit will be built in Malaysia-im not sure how good that will be (but it will reduce costs)

[AgustaF4]

How about 3 affordable classics: Europa, 914, Sonett. Or 3 classic Utes: FJ 40 Landcruiser, 88 inch series IIA Land Rover, Nissan Patrol L60!!

[LotusChamp]

Hello, there is a transaxle I am interested on Ebay. Is it possible to tell if a tranny is four or five speed by looking at it?? Any help would be appreciated.

[LotusLocost]

If you can get a picture of the inside it`s easy.. just count.
From the outside.. a bit harder.. but if you can get some spesific history and info on both types, maybe there are cosmetic diferences..
what type of tranney are you talking about?
A tranney for a Lotus Europa? What year of make? Twin Cam engien?

And by the way.. Welcome to UCP.. Good to see another Lotus fan

[Matra et Alpine]

The transaxles were Renault ......
Europa Series 2 - Renault 336 4-speed transaxle (HEAVILY modified)
Europa Twincam Lotus - Renault 336 or 352 4-speed transaxle
Europa Special Lotus - Renault 365 5-speed transaxle
Europa Special Lotus - Renault 352 4-speed transaxle
T/C or Special Fitted with the Renault Fuego NG1/NG3 5 speed transaxle
The Type47 racers used a Hewland box.

IIRC the 365 is unique in having an extra mounting bracket on the rear. But I cant' remember where the markings are Not many Europa experts around Try one of the many on-line Europa and Lotus clubs, they're bound to have a list You only got the above because of my Renault references

EDIT: update .... ta-Ra, and in the Alpine-Renault competition bits I found ....... see attached image for 'box identification

PS: Try not to put up double threads. it can confuse. Pick ONE forum and post there, we usually pick them up. THEN if it's not after a few days you could conclude it was in the wrong forum and post anew in a different sub-forum. Cheers

[LotusLocost]

Ahhhhh....
I`m looking forward to the day I holde so much useful information as you Matra. Seriously

[Matra et Alpine]

Ahhhhh....
I`m looking forward to the day I holde so much useful information as you Matra. Seriously

A large library, VERY large discs and knowing WHERE to find things is always smarter than trying to know it all oneself ( oh and lots of friends to messenger on the toughies )
I'm only a conduit !!!

[sunk]

How about 3 affordable classics: Europa, 914, Sonett. Or 3 classic Utes: FJ 40 Landcruiser, 88 inch series IIA Land Rover, Nissan Patrol L60!!

The Sonnett was overpriced at its time and was one of SAAB's rare mistakes : a car that didn't sell.

[sunk]

A large library, VERY large discs and knowing WHERE to find things is always smarter than trying to know it all oneself ( oh and lots of friends to messenger on the toughies )
I'm only a conduit !!!

I'll try....

[Matra et Alpine]

The Sonnett was overpriced at its time and was one of SAAB's rare mistakes : a car that didn't sell.

They sold extremely well.
Saab limited the Sonnet to a 2000 production run as it wasnt' core business for them. They only produced them to tap into an interested performance market that expanded out of the success of the 96 in rallying ( the Sonnet being basically the same car in a fibreglass body )
Sonnet II did about 8000 and AFAIK was again only ever intended as limited production.
I dont' remember Sonnet's ever sitting around the forecourts unsold