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| Rob959 22-12-2003 |
"I had an opportunity to drive a mew Cayenne in Germany early in 2003. 220 km (135mph+)on the Autobahn and the vehicle still accelerated when you stepped on the pedal.I was later told that the design was intended for the Southern California SUV market. or market share. Fine by me ! I ordered a fully loaded Titanium S in March and drove it off the lot in July. At the end of the year this vehicle still turns heads. City, Mountains, up the Coast this is one fantastic ride ! Very quiet inside. My wife feel asleep heading towards Santa Barbara not aware of how fast it was actually going on the Freeway. ( As in the commercial but in reverse ). I do not see the safety aspect of the Cayenne addressed anywhere, but it should. The interior seats, and surrounding pillars are all airbagged. Where is this feature on other SUV's ? I can't seriously address the fuel economy issue, because it isn't really. However, try driving a SMART car up in the ALPs, let alone around Lake Como. Which vehicle would you rather be driving in the rain, sleet or snow ? Yes, there are some that do not like the design, or don't consider it a "" real "" Porsche. My comment is that as a PCA member for sometime now, and as an owner of a limited edition 911( now legal ), YES, this is a new evolution of Porsche. The Speedster, for those of you old enough to remember, was also designed for the Southern Califonia market. Highly successful, and highly sought after, even today. More importantly, the Cayenne line allows Porsche not only to survive recent financial problems, but to show a outstanding profit and move on to keep building excellent machines for future enthusiasts. Porsche has done a very good job !" |
| Why compare? |
| Dr. No 20-11-2003 |
Everyone wants to show that something out there is as good, or better than, the Cayenne Turbo. Fact of the matter is that nothing can be directly compared. Porsche has defined a new niche in the marketplace. Concerning questions posed to me in the past, I drive this vehicle as my exclusive ride, over 15K miles per year, city/highway, kids and all. I have no intention for off-road, or race track driving, though this vehicle offers me the opportunity for both. I've been told that it has beaten a number of Carreras at the track. But I do want to tell you that I've never driven any other car or SUV that has as much untapped power and performance at any speed and in any driving condition. It is just awesome to feel, and with a silky smooth ride unrivaled by any luxury car that I've ever driven. 5 adults with luggage and able to cruise at unbelievable speeds, always with more under the pedal. It's the price of admission, and well worth it. You must put the miles on it to understand what you have here. Don't fault Porsche or those consumers who are willing to pay for their luxuries. This vehicle is worth every penny, and it will only cost more tomorrow. The bar has been raised for others to meet. I LOVE IT! |
| Fastest SUV? |
| tenzero 2-11-2003 |
Nobody has mentioned the GMC Syclone SUV which only takes 4.8-5.3 seconds to run to 60. GM states its horsepower at 285 peak. Owners have found it to be approximately 330 horses.(This is one of the vehicles that GM has underestimated official stats on to save for insurance. See also L-88 Corvette.) The GMC truck has a Turbocharged 4.3 V6, same as the Jimmy or Blazer trucks, sans the Turbocharger. The engine is American, 12 Valve Pushrod. The truck weighs in at 3895lbs. Kelly Blue Book slates this cars used value for a 1992 model to be 13,700. Maybe GM beat the Uber-German engineering ten years before? I'd say so. |
| Unusual |
| 360evo 13-10-2003 |
This car is ridiculously fast and powerful an SUV, and in a recent test between the Suzuki Jimny and the Cayenne Turbo. Power-wise, the Cayenne obviously reigned supreme. But when it came to the Land Rover off road test track, the nimble Jimny really did outperform the Cayenne on the hills and whatnot. Rich mans toy =) |
| Whats the problem |
| eddh 9-10-2003 |
This is an example of porsche expanding thier car market into other areas, as you see here, into the SUV market, despite the debatable looks, this car is extremely high performance for an SUV and you would have to pay companies like Brabus more money for the same sort of performance, so therefore I think that the Cayenne Turbo is a great car and I hope it continues to penetrate a new area of the fast production level SUV market |
| To all naysaers... |
| evildjbob 4-8-2003 |
you people dont understand what porsche did. porsche made a gigantic suv worthy of being called a sports car. The car isnt about practicality, porsche isnt about practicality so stop complaining about it and just accept that porsche made the fastest suv ever because they could. The cayene is all about being the only suv around worthy of being called a porsche. |
| Cayenne Turbo vs. WRX? |
| sbradley02 25-7-2003 |
Jdeltalima says the Cayenne Turbo beats the WRX 0-60, but they're exactly the same, at 5.5 sec. A better comparison would be with the WRX Sti, which sees 60 in 4.88 sec. The problem is with Cayenne's incredibly high weight of 5200 lbs. No wonder it needs such a huge engine to get decent performance. The WRX Sti costs 1/3 as much, BTW. I used to be a Porsche owner, when they made small, fast, relatively affordable cars. I believe their sales have declined as they have abandoned this market. Their only current vehicle in this class is the Boxster, which is a really sweet car. I can't quite figure out what market they're trying to target with a $90,000 SUV. |
| dr. no |
| originalname 17-7-2003 |
while i respect your decision to buy this suv, i hope you might answer a few simple questions i have, since you seem to be amenable to speaking about the latest porsche. just to preface, i am being candid, and i'm definitely not trying to be insulting. first, do you ever take the car off-road? do you ever need to go above highway speeds with 5 passengers (including children) and all their gear? do you ever take the porsche out to a track? do you ever need to mix performance and utility? i raise these questions to prove a valid point: for most people, this thing is a useless, trendy monstrosity that porsche has built to increase profits, not increase prestige. granted, some people might push this porsche to the limits in all of its areas, and i am sure the car will do admirably, but most people willing to fork 100k + for the car could easily buy a 996 carrera 2 or 4s for 50-80 thousand dollars, and with the remaining 30k, buy some low level suv to do stupid grunt work. the NA carreras get better mileage, polute less, and still have blistering performance, much better than this new cayenne. i just can't understand why people would buy it other than to follow the suv craze. thanx for listening. o-name |
| Followup about Mileage |
| Dr. No 17-7-2003 |
I am experiencing 14.5 mpg average for combined driving over the past 1000 miles. At 60 mph, I am getting 21 MPG. At 80, it drops to 15-16 MPG. For comparison, my MB ML320 has averaged 17 MPG over 45000 miles. There is no way to compare these two vehicles as the performance differences are incredible. I don't think that most consumers who are willing to pay $100,000 for this vehicle (incl. tax) are going to be taken aback by the gas mileage. Of course everyone knows about the price you pay for the massive performance capability. The bigger the smile, the more you pay for the fun. Regarding the looks of the Cayenne Turbo, the front is distinctly Porsche, the rear is typical SUV. The initial impression is one of uncertainty. But it rapidly grows on you and fits in perfectly with the trend of most manufacturers, away from the boxy truck, and towards more of a hybrid vehicle/wagon. Just look at Nissan, Infinity, Lexus, VW, Volvo. Got to love this car! |
| congratulations |
| henk4 7-7-2003 |
Well here's to Dr. No, I likes his report but I am also curious about the mileage he is getting. Pushing the pedal to the metal might be a costly affair, unless of course he is still benefitting from the low fuel prices in the USA, which may be one third of those in most countries in Europe. You might be surprised to hear that in Europe the Tuareg V10Tdi is the car to have in this market segment, waiting times are now exceeding one year. dieselfuel in Europe is generally between 10-25% cheaper than gasoline. I recently saw a Cayenne in black. Looked actually like Porsche's contribution to the funeral business. |
| An amazing vehicle! |
| Dr. No 7-7-2003 |
"I just picked up my '04 Cayenne Turbo, and can't find enough superlatives to do the folks at Porsche justice. This is a truly unbelievable feat of combining SUV utility and 911 performance into one vehicle. As for my basis of comparison, I have owned 911 Targa, latest Corvette convertible, '00 MB SL500, Range Rovers, Tahoes, and MB ML320. I wanted the utility to handle the kids and chores of daily life and commuting to work, as well as the performance and handling of a sports car. Nothing else compares to the Cayenne Turbo. It may be a bit heavy for a sports car, and too expensive for a SUV/Truck, but everything averages out and works perfectly. A Jeckyll and Hyde car...calm and well mannered in normal traffic and driving duties. But press the gas pedal harder and hold on for the treat. It puts a smile on my face every time. Porsche has finally come to the party with a real useful player. Seating for 5, plenty of storage space, luxurious appointments, and power/handling on par with the world's finest sports cars. It has most of those virtues that the 911 is reknowned for, and brings to the consumer all of the additional features/functions(like the A/C system)/utility that the 911 lacks. Don't complain about it until you've spent a lot of time at the wheel. 55mph feels like standing still, 85mph feels like 50, and 100+mph feels like ""normal highway speeds"". When's the last time that you were in a SUV/Truck that could easily blow past 100mph and get up to 165? BRAVO Porsche!!!" |
| SUVs or Motorsport? |
| TJ930 5-7-2003 |
My uncle who works for Porsche test-drove the Cayenne last year. He described its handling like that of a 928 - high praise indeed to compare an SUV with an old 'super car' of perfect 50/50 weight distribution.. I, on the other hand, couldn't care less. I think the thing is (relatively) ugly and simply to set one's stall out to beat the likes of the Mercedes (Berlin taxi-cab manufacturer) and the BMW X5 (overated saloon-car manufacturer) shows a real lack of ambition. When will Porsche reveal a worthy successor to the technologically advanced 959? (The Carrera GT is pretty good, but actually slower and released is such small numbers..) Or get back to thrashing the opposition, year upon year, at Motorsport? |
| my perspective |
| haseeb-exotic 28-5-2003 |
a lot of people are complaining about the cayenne turbo's design & a lot of them are those who havent even seen it.i have been lucky enough to see a golden cayenne turbo here in dubai.it looked unbelievable coz it had the best curves i had ever seen in any SUV.it had that prescence that made it stand out from the rest.even a bm X5 4.6i didnt look good which was right beside it but i did notice that the cayennes rear is very similar to the x5.i also caught a look at the interior & it was excellent.i think we should give porsche a chance as they have been making one of the best sports cars in the world so it doesnt matter if the cayenne is a little ugly looking coz maybe the next cayenne maybe even better. |
| Technically excellent, aestheticly not too appealing. |
| wannaberich 20-5-2003 |
No doubt about the technical aspect. The design is Ok, but I think Porsche could've done a much better job. the rear end is just ugly. The headlights looks nice but there are too much opening for the intake. The pillars should be kept black instead of body color. Porsche should've been a bit more creative and come up with a more fluid, dynamic design. I'd say on a 1-10 scale the overall design would get a 6 to 6.5. Design wise, I think BMW X5 is a winner. |
| 5 door sports car |
| henk4 20-5-2003 |
with 500 kg weight penalty when empty and a 1000 kg or so when fully loaded. No wonder this thing drinks. BTW 911 fan, where you also in the rear seat when it was driven like a sportscar? Being there means rather away from the centre of gravity and will mean a lot of swinging around it. You might call it a sportscar, but I would only accept that if FIA or whoever introduces a special category for SUV races. |
| 5 door sports car |
| 911Fan 19-5-2003 |
I am fortunate enough to be the custodian of both a 2003 Boxster S and a 2002 C4S. I test drove the Cayenne Turbo yesterday. I was blown away by the vehicle. Fortunately I had a 50 minute drive oon a proven test run with a Porsche driver. When soemeone know the road and says 'No harder now' constantly while in a 3rd gear bend, you discover pretty quickly how the car performs. On a motorway we were VERY quickly up to 130mph. Through bends with time and therefore confidence the car sticks better than you could hope for. The brakes are superb. The car will drift in slight understeer but then flick out slight from the tail. Just how you would want it. I came back with a broad smile on my face that lasted all day. In short the car is a 5door/5 seater Porsche. It performs like a sports car but can take granny and the luggage. There are however 2 downsides:- 1. It drinks fuel. Averaging 12mpg with as low as 5 mpg on a track I was warned. You will be lucky to get 250 miles out of a tank. 2. Its very colour sensitive. Dark colours don't really work as the aluminium look strips around the windows look tacky. Silver is too bright. Only colour I think is Titanium (slightly darker the Seal Grey) Role on September when mine arrives. Can't wait (only bummer is the C4S wil go) |
| Gorgeous change |
| Neutrino 14-5-2003 |
hey energy2..the VW touareg is similar to the cayenne cos the porsche designed and made it..Porsche has made one of the most historic changes..i mean this is porsche's first suv...but damn its amazing..i mean this is one succesful transition..and to tell u the truth..i believe that this car will be one of the best production cars ever..as well as the audi pikes peak..and for anyone who disagrees then u surely dont know anything about cars..!! Both the Cayenne S and the turbo are worthy cars..The S was made for normal driving while the Turbo was made for speed fanatics!! |
| arm-chair quarterbacks? |
| originalname 3-5-2003 |
"it is the customers who dictate whether or not they like a company's product, and with that said i believe i wont become an ""arm-chair quarterback"" by saying that the SUV craze is making me sick, and porsche has just become another conformist example. Walking around my little town yesterday I saw a Cayenne S. Who was driving it, you might ask. was it one of you dick-less losers who say porsche is still ""all about the perfomance"" ?. No. Was it one of the true porsche fans who drive because they love the feel of being connected with the road through a pure-bred sports car? No. It was a MIDDLE-AGED WOMAN. I am sure that 340 hp monster she was driving will never go above 100mph. I am equally sure she will never use the SUV on terrain more difficult than a bumpy road, and I am positive that somewhere Porsche engineers are cringing when they see who is now buying Porsches. Congrats, Porsche, you have sold your soul along with the rest of the mainstream automotive world." |
| that may be so..... |
| IBrake4Rainbows 26-4-2003 |
and if it is indeed so, then why doe sit have such sporting aspiriations? Let me just say that in the months passed since such the launch of such cars as the Renault Avantime, BMW E65 7-Series and the like, I have learnt to deal with such design ummm...directions. Mainly due to the fact that they have a specific purpose and they adhere to that purpose or brand statement, Renault trying to move up market, BMw trying to put an end to Cookie Cutter mobiles, but the fact still remains,they ain't pretty. The Cayenne, i feel, has no purpose other than to be a Me-Too mobile so that the family man can still feel like he's getting a good drive. in Air-sprung mode, that may be so, but in the steel spring versions of the Cayenne the handling is meant to be indifferent, thus removing the apparant appeal and purpose of the car. And thus, the Cayenne is indeed the worlds most pointless automobile. |
| the soccer mom |
| keener1605 25-4-2003 |
this car isn't meant for hard track use it is meant for the moms and dads that want a nice performing car but be able to take the kids for the ride. i think its amazing that they got a 5000 pound car that has almost no aerodynamics to go fast enough to beat a mustang but able to take 5 adults and everything they want with em |
| Poor typing skills are distracting... |
| Biff 18-4-2003 |
"I have had numerous Porsches. My current Porsche is a 2001 996 black on black. It has 10,000 miles. I also like Dodge Vipers. However, the 996 is pretty tame compared to the Vipers. I have a GTS and an SRT-10. The Vipers have all of the capability of the Porsches in the turns, but when it comes to the straights, bye-bye Porsches, Ferraris and Corvettes! The latest Viper, the SRT-10, is flat awesome! Better in the turns, more power, more torque and much better brakes. ----------------- Anyway, I HAVE driven the Cayenne S and the Cayenne Turbo. I don't think that the ""S"" is anything special. It is a very nice car, and it is a Porsche. The performance is nothing special. The tracking is nothing special. The ""Turbo"" is different, the power is a lot of fun. Tracking is better too. But, the car is very heavy. It takes a while to get much going on. I don't like Tiptronic. Maybe if I got used to it I'd like it. I prefer the 996 with manual 6-speed any day, all day. And I like the Viper SRT-10 best of all." |
| Not over yet. |
| Jdeltalima 4-4-2003 |
Well guys, you conservatory fools, the cayenne was a way for porsche not to go out of business first, second, it's great, they could have really screwed this SUV thing up but they didn't, a cayenne Turbo can wipe out a subaru WRX on a 0-60 and a quarter mile, plus it drives like a porsche. I have connections in Weissach and Leipzig telling they're gonna use the V8 they developped for the Cayenne for a sporty four or two door estate car (nicer way to say station wagon). Looking forward to they dismay comments following this one. |
| nice |
| porsche lover 26-3-2003 |
This one looks much nicer than the cayenne S. It?s turbo makes it look higher in front. Why don?t they do with this car what they did with the X5 Le Mans and change the 4,5 liter V8 to a big V12. |
| Why such bad words about the Cayenne?!!! |
| Arosaturbo 18-3-2003 |
Well,when i saw this model for the first time,ijust couldn't believe that this beatiful SUV car is a Porsche.It has everything what somebody want's from a car,it is very fast,it's very luxurious with lots of space in it and it is better than the Range Rover as a 4WD!!!!!Why this words about the car?Who says that Porsche sucks?I believe that Porsche is one of the best carmakers in the world and she has proved that with the cars she has build in all this years! |
| WOW you all need HELP! |
| 2002 Cab Owner 16-3-2003 |
So if you like it- buy it. If you don't like it don't buy it! I think Porsche has a better management team that can make decisions than you arm chair quarterbacks! |
| to all especially x porsche fan!! |
| motorhead 14-2-2003 |
Your username makes me sick!! You don't like porsche anymore because of the Cayenne! What bullshit are you trying to prove?? I bet you have not even sat in a decent porsche before and when i mean desent is 911 desent. I have sat and experienced a few 911s. The first ever 911 that sat was a 930 and i fell in love with the car immediately. It may be old but it still looks and feel good. I was lucky enoigh to go for a ride in the car and it was awesome. When you hear that flat 6 engine with the radiator blowing its fans off you forget everything. Your whole mind just concentrates at what is going to happen next. If the passenger feels like that just imagine the driver. Now i had also sat in a few ruf but never experienced any of those and then the latest 911 i have sat in is the 3.4L 996 Carrera Coupe. It is my very good friend fathers car. Everytime i go to his house no doubt i will start playing with the car and he is also a car freak so we will try our best not to set the car on fire. The latest porsche i have sat in is the facinating Cayenne! and it was a cayenne turbo. I had seen the car many times in pics and test in test car form and i hated the stupid dumbass looks of the csr from the time i saw the first pic. Actually infact in 2000 when i heard someone saying porsche is going to built an SUV i bloody knew it was going to be ugly. Sportscar companies in this case porsche cannot do these sought of things. They are so used to make low, small and turtle like cars with a very aerodynamic body and when they venture out and do something which they are not goos at they go a bit crazy. What i think the cayenne looks like is a mixture of a boxed up four door 993 and 996. The back of the cayenne looks like a side squashed tail light of a 993 and the front looks like a simpler version of the 3.4 996 or boxter. Then comes the interior which really is the best part of the whole car. It just looks so nice with all the titanium coloured buttons and the red leather which was optional on the car i sat in. It has that LCD screen which both the X5 and Toureg has in between the tachnometer and speedometer. It look better than any other porsche in the market and it also i day say feels better. The seats are absoutely confortable and they look great too. Like i said earlier when you are experiencing a 930 or any 911 or any boxter for that matter you forget everything and you think and relise who cares about the cayenne when they built stuff like this!!! |
| can't believe they even thought of it!!!! |
| X-PORSCHE FAN! 13-2-2003 |
thrusday night, everything prepared to get my new porsche boxster 2003 on saturday...a 2.7ltr., 228bhp and V6 engine wouldn't be as much power as i'd ask for, but definately as much as i need and can afford. then why didn't i go for a less expensive BMW Z3? or a brand new Z4 for example??? attracting (ppl couldn't take their eyes off when i test drove it), more powerful, and less expensive even with a GPS system?! because porsche was never about the engine alone, porsche is a DESIGN (engine,interior,exterior...etc),or should i say WAS?! porsche had a reputation that nobody would dare try to ruin unless that person was another brand's maniac,simply for not finding an error for which to back that up with! the company let go of anything to do with what the name PORSCHE meant and concentrated on a very powerful engine PERIOD! an SUV PORSCHE ?! how about a HUMMER roadster?! naaah, i'd say a BMX bus would be a new idea for the bicycle company if the same guy from porsche who came up with this idea gets fired and joins it! there is no porsche respect anymore and i wish they stop producing it...what makes it any better than a Mercedes SL 350 now?? i wish i had the extra cash for it. do i still want that boxster, you bet! but would never enjoy it as much as i would have without the exsistence of the ugly-butt cayenne. |
| yuck |
| dondon2003 11-2-2003 |
I think this is uglyer then a rear end of a elephent I think porshe should go back to there small beast cars instead of there copy of a land rover a make some green and decided to chang the boxter s into a mounster V-12. I know its inpossible but, maybe if they try to hook up with lamborgini they maybe able to build the ultimate car |
| nice set of cars Bill!! |
| motorhead 11-2-2003 |
You sure bloody hell have a damn nice set of cars and is that 97 turbo a 993? If it is, let me tell you this, you have one of the finest porsche is able to built for anyone but the problem is that i really do not care. You have a 993 and you bought a Cayenne. Just for the record, do you know how bloody disgraceful that thing is?? Well you don't because you bought one. So what if it has fantastic performance. Even if it does the quater mile in half a secong nobody cares! I know you stated that you are not going to thrash or even challenge a F40 but the way you typed your comment potraits that you are going to race your Cayenne with a HKS Skyline in drag racing!! 100 000++ for a big hideos thing which is damn frekin slow is not bloody worth it at all but in a Hummer nobody cares about performance! For example take a Cayenne and a H2! Put them side by side and judge their styling. The porsche will win hands down to a box with 4 wheels but put it beside a X5 or range rover or a Toureg for that matter everything changes. I love porsches and will always like marque and their cars. To prove how much I love the marque i would rather take a 914 to a Cayenne. Porsche = Damn frekin good sportscars not big, ugly boxes with four wheels which try and hide their uglyness by having good performance. I have sat in the ayenne and i am impressed with only one thing, then interior and nothing else. It is a very good place to be in and it is very confortable too. Built quality is good but not that good and materials are all placed where they are supposed to be. Just one last thing before you fall asleep, if you like the marque and their cars, you must cancel your order straight away!! |
| Owner Comments |
| BillShears 10-2-2003 |
"I happened across this site and after reading many of the comment/complaints I thought I'd add a couple of my own. I recently took delivery of a Cayenne Turbo, and might have a different perspective than those of you who haven't even test driven the vehicle. First- The Cayenne IS an SUV,as are the Hummer H1, and the omnipresent Ford Explorer. These vehicles, each with their own prowess, all exist in the same loosely defined category. While the Hummer provides the most ""off road"" capability, the Cayenne provides the highest level of ""on road"" handling, acceleration and braking. The Explorer offers economy and a mixed-blend of the aforementioned traits. None of the three does everything at the highest level. All emphasize different items to the perspective driver. Second- While the Cayenne is not what anyone would call a ""traditional"" Porsche model, it is representative of the engineering, design, and development that allows Porsche to remain a competitive high line manufacturer. Third- Here are observations regarding my Cayenne. It IS fast! Not fast like my 97 Turbo, but fast enough to shut down the ""light racers"". The sound of the V8 is different, but in a good way. It's fairly throaty and somewhat loud. Handling is better than average, allowing for surprising confidence in cornering. You don't think you are driving a 911, but you definitely know you aren't in a Tahoe, or even a Subaru. I've driven it a few time recently on snow-slick roads and it gets along as well as my Dodge Ram 4x4. The Dodge would probably handle deep snow better. Braking is one area in which you can not say enough good things.As you would expect,the brakes are awesome! Although I haven't really tested the limits of the Cayenne,the PSM system on top of the fabulous brakes should keep all but the most ridiculous situation from getting out of control. Finally...price. The cost of the Cayenne Turbo is much too steep for an SUV that is not going to climb over boulders, and ford deep creeks. But, $110k for a vehicle that takes 25 seconds to do the 1/4 mile (Hummer H1) is outrageous too! Does this mean we should all just buy Explorers, Tahoes and Durangos and forget about anything over $40,000? That leaves out the venerable Range Rover. I like my Cayenne Turbo. I won't be climbing Pikes Peak with it, and I won't be outrunning any Ferrari F40 I happen into. I'll just drive it like any other vehicle I have, and take advantage of the qualities it offers. I'll also continue to smile when guys at the gas station come over and ask.""Is that really a Porsche?"" Regards, Bill" |
| understandin SUVs |
| Supercharged 3-2-2003 |
If u gotta a large family and want to travel long distances in style and comfert, yet dont want to comprimise performance then this is the car for you.......however if u have no family and if you have all sorts of issues regarding the contents of trousers ,and the size of your wedding tackle ,and have to buy an SUV jus to prove your self a man then this is also the car for you! lol |
| Please respect the new concept |
| Norman 28-1-2003 |
"I own a boxster. I like it as a good sport car. I did not quite like, or understood, the ""look"" of Cayenne when I first saw it. But after knowing more about the rational behind it, I do agree that the presence of Cayenne confirms my respect to Porsche as what it is. People in Porsche are really visioners, but most people who own Porsches are no more than a car comsumers. It is a brave decision for Porsche to move into an unchatered sea." |
| Tissen |
| Tissen 18-1-2003 |
Finally the Teutonic Panzer Producers are showing their true colours and have gone back to building Tiger Tanks. Sturdy, reliable, gray and boring. Like all other Mercs, Beamers and Porks. FERRARI DOESN'T MAKE TRUCKS, SUCKERS. There is hope for you yet, God helps children, fools and Porsche owners... |
| Shame, Shame, Shame... |
| Primera 15-1-2003 |
Porsche should stick to their roots, this car is a kick in the ass for Porsche, and even though the car itself isn't that bad, A Porsche SUV looks to start a horrible trend in Euro performance car manufacturers. |
| 928,944 and 968 ARE Real Porsches! |
| AntiDomestic 15-1-2003 |
In reply to..ibrake4rainbows...again 928,944 and 968 are REAL Porches ok so shove it! Atleast those were Gt sports cars not no Freakin' stupid SUV and for the record I love all the front Engined Porsches with the acception of the 924 ok you can Rag on that,lol. |
| *nodding head in shame* |
| AntiDomestic 15-1-2003 |
I can't believe Porsche, makers of such great cars (in no particular order)as the 911,944 turbo,928 968 and the new Carrera GT comin' out to name a few,made a freakin' SUV for CRYIN' OUT LOUD! I HATE SUVs and I hate this thing as well! I'm actually angered by this Gas guzzling ,good for nothin', bad for Porsche's Image P.O.S.! I feel like Porsche has let it's fans down big Time with this pos and it's such a shame..sigh... I used to be so proud of Porsche for only makin' sport and Gt cars now they go and do something this stupid Crimony! Some one please tell me it's only a nighmare and it's not real,lol |
| you are all missing the point |
| originalname 14-1-2003 |
"this is the bottom line. we will now see SUV moms driving their kids around in a porsche because they think they have the right to drive around huge, dangerous gas-guzzling cars (since they have kids). This SUV is no longer about performance; porsche has sold its soul. The SUV mom with her kids and her cell phone will never use this car to its full potential, she will drive it around town polluting the environment and generally feeling powerful and good about herself. i am suprised porshce didnt remember to put shopping bag hooks in the rear storage compartment, because their target buyers are obvious.""" |
| really powerful and fast, if not that attractive |
| apocalypse 4-1-2003 |
This SUV is really very amazing. Its got an extremely blessed engine with over 400 horsepower, and this baby goes 0-60mpg in 5.5 seconds. What more do you want??? This is really a great SUV. At first, you may not find the car attractive, however, it needs a little getting used to like most cars. It looks a bit awkard from the front, especially the lights..but its got its porsche attitude and thats all that matters!!! |
| here i go again!!! |
| motorhead 21-12-2002 |
sorry for not replying to all your comments(i was on holiday in thailand and overturned a jetski, hahaha)anyway when ever i talk to car enthusiasts or my friends about the cayenne i always discuss about the styling and why porsche built that thing.They always say it looks ugly(except one fellow who likes all the wrong cars)but they also always say things like it is the fastest SUV on the planet, it had the fastest acceleration and many other good things about its performance but do we only care about performance!! How fast can you go in an SUV most of the time(140km/h the most)and many people say that its off roading capabilities are range rover standards(i don't think so) and by the way, do SUV owners take their cars off roading, rarely! SOme suv owners do not even take their suvs off roading and if cayenne owners are planning to beat 911s and boxters on straights with 5 people on board and five thousand suitcases in the boot they better think again. 911/boxter owners will be laughing their asses out when they see you in a cayenne and you will be so shocked that you will stare at them and smash into a tree or something!!!! and then they will thank you for eliminating another cayenne off the streets!! |
| to porsche freak!!!!!! |
| motorhead 15-12-2002 |
To me everybody is a porsche freak. There must be at least a porsche that someone likes. Nobody dare say they hate all porsches but when you are talikng about the cayenne, ahhhhhhhh, everything changes. you get things like what is that oversized piece of crap. Then you tell them it is a porsche. Then they say holy shit! Porsche building that kind of things, have they gone mental??? And talking about Ferdinand Porsche. We all know he was the one who design the VW beetle and many other cars but did you know that porsche is seperated into 2 parts currently. Ferdinand Alexandra Porsche(Grandson of Ferdinand Porsche) owns the first half of porsche and Ferdinand Piech, the other Grandson of Ferdinand Porsche and former VW chairman owns the second half. I bet porsche surely knew that they were going to get tons and tons of critizism about the cayenne so they decided to built it fast(like a 911). Now what crap is that?? Does porsche think we only care about performance??? How about looks?? All the 911s look wonderful(my fav the 993)Luckily porsche did not think of puting the engine at the back of the cayenne!! My good friends father drives a 996 targa(3.6) and sometimes i talk to him about cars(he is an engineer) I asked him how he felt about the cayenne?? He said that porsche has gone mad!!! Then i told him that a lot of people are critizising the cayenne because of its looks and guess what his reply was, They should not.......stop critizising the cayenne until porsche does something to it. |
| My Views Never Changed |
| IBrake4Rainbows 14-12-2002 |
I always hated the concept of an SUV, and the Porsche Cayenne has done little, or maybe even the opposite. Of changing my mind on the matter. The fact is, it's ugly, it's thirsty, it's a stupid idea and i hope porsche get severly caned for it, for heaven sakes, they deserve it. |
| What's wrong with you people |
| porsche freek 14-12-2002 |
Firstly porsche does reserve the right to enter any car market they want to.....that's simply their right. Now i admit the cayenne is not the most attractive car ever but beauty isn't everything : take the new aston martin beautiful,beautiful and that's just about it. The Cayenne was not built exclusively for money, it may seem so but it was actually built to satisfy the need of the growing public. Now into the vehicle it self. This car has it's beginnings in the legendary 959. the idea of a porsche suv stemmed from the 959's amazing success at the Paris Dakkar Ralleye. The power this car gives is amazing it is the perfect combination of power and and functionality...this is what porsche stands for. porsches weren't ment to be overbeautiful or excessively powerful just purposeful. This is why it also comes with the tiptronic transmission....no sportscar freek is gonna buy a cayenne...this is a family vehicle. Finally about the closeness with VW, come on ppl. Please inform yourself before you speak!! Ferdinand Porsche was responsible for the design of the first VW's, it is only logical that both companies will share a close relationship. i no i will be biased toward porsche i love the the brand and all that it stands for but all i can really see for this SUV is success!! |
| sick to my stomach... |
| Unknown 14-12-2002 |
Ah, it's the Aztec phenomenon all over again! Remember the first time you saw the Pontiac Aztec and felt an inexhaustible urge to vomit? Well, it has risen again! Remember the feeling that you get in your stomach, the feeling you get when you detest and despise something? Well, here is the epitomy of all ugliness... slabbed on four wheels. Some fool at Porsche must have accidently put the design plans for this car in the 'approved' bin instead of the 'radioactive crap' bin. I love Porsche, and I believe that the Carrera GT is one of the most beautiful cars of all time. But, as if it came from some inverted parallel universe, the Cayenne seems to counterbalance it. I dislike SUVs, but Porsche could certainly do better than this. So I say: I hope all these Porsches roll over and crash. Just get me a Carrera GT. |
| Cayenne fan! |
| Modifica 14-12-2002 |
I'm astonished at how many people say this vehicle is ugly. From the first time I saw this vehicle I was hooked. I don't think they could have gone any other way. And they are not jumping on the SUV bandwagon! If they want to, let them build it. I registered on the web site a few months ago and I just received this package from them that contained a 40-minute video on the Cayenne and a big booklet. Trust me, once you saw this video, you would know they did the right thing. I think it looks better than any of the BMW suv's. Also has gadgets galore and they are perfectly placed and are simple to use. I have heard the sound of this thing and it is quite different from any other engine. Sounds awesome! Overall I think this is a very smart choice from Porsche. I haven't seen much variety from Porsche in a long time. The Cayenne will change the way you look at SUV's forever. |
| Thanx |
| IBrake4Rainbows 14-12-2002 |
For clearing up that little spot on my memory. My point being, if a car manufacturer like maserati comes into the MPV-SUV foray, then something big is going down in the industry. Car manufacturers are constantly searching for new Niches and cars like the Cayenne prove that. The Upmarket SUV may be an old Idea, and maybe even a stupid one. But the spins which some manufacturers put on it make it worthwhile. Porsche however completely lost it's marbles on this one though... |
| Giugiaro |
| henk4 13-12-2002 |
The Buran is a design excercise by Giugiaro studios only and not connected with the Maserati factory in any way. What a relief. See www.maseratinet.com |
| not WOW |
| henk4 13-12-2002 |
"I suppose that if people (the non-cognoscenti) would see the Venice they would not say Wow because they would not recognise it as a ferrari. Actually, when I saw the Venice at Silverstone a couple of years ago, there was a guy from Ferrari London standing beside it making frantic phone calls to I don't know who, but what he said can be summarized as ""WOW, never saw such a thing before"" and ""what is it"". So if the sultan would take off the badges nobody would be offended. Maybe I am having a soft spot for the venice because I am driving a similar shape of car (Citroen Xantia, see elsewhere on this site if you don't know what it is), which incidently is capable of mimicking the Cayennes ability to rise or lower its suspension, thanks to its selflevelling hydropneumatic suspension system, a feature fitted to all large Citroens since the 1950-ties. It does not improve its off-road capabilities, although you can move over larger obstacles, but comes in very handy if you have to change a flat tyre. (If you notice having one since the suspension will prevent the car from sinking in to one side). I would not mind however, if you would also call this car crap, just as the Venice. """ |
| about the maserati buran............ |
| motorhead 13-12-2002 |
it was design and built by italdesign and that thing looks quite cool in fact. Why didn't porsche think of that????? |
| Guys, could you clear... |
| IBrake4Rainbows 13-12-2002 |
Something up for me? I am just wondering which styling house made the Maserati Buran from the Year 2000? was it Giguaro or Italdesgin, or maybe even pininfarina? Either way, when someone as sports oriented as Maserati gets into the SUV craze, something big is going down... |
| Suspension |
| Dark_Saint929 12-12-2002 |
The comment on the pic of the Cayenne being a low rider, its not. The suspension can actually adjust that low for sportscar-like handling, and it can also raise itself to an SUV height for 'serious off-roading'. When you really think about the BMW X5 is another example of an SUV that is more of a jacked-up wagon too. And since the trend these days is to release suv's built on car platforms, so they can ride and handle better, it's pretty easy to see that most suvs are big awd or 4wd wagons. We all there used by hockey-moms everywhere. |
| henk4......... |
| motorhead 12-12-2002 |
i am not blind damit. since you say pininfarina fine. Then why did ferrai ask pininarina to built it and oh yes that is an even bigger disgrace to pininfarina(but the pininfarina bus is the most disgraceful thing) Pininfarina built damn nice cars like the f50 so why come up with that. The worst thing is that ferrari actually asked them to make the car and they said yes(maybe they wanted money or maybe they wanted to disgrace their name)i am sure the latter is absolutely right and you were saying about pulling up in the 456 gt venice instead of the cayenne i think most people(except us)do not know anything about cars and when they see a ferrari they say WOW and when they see a porsche they say WOW even louder(because those are the only 2 sportscar brands they know). No matter how ugly looking or how crappy your car is they will still have the mentality of wow this is a ferrari man this is a porsche man! And when you pull up in one anyway they will stare at your face or the car)like you are god or something. And which stupid idiot would low ride their cayenne or their 456 gt venice. it would look damn stupid and fake. Anyway both cars are nonsensical and disgraceful and to people who buy them, good luck!! |
| read |
| henk4 12-12-2002 |
OK, Motorhead, if you cannot read properly here we go again, the Venice was not (NOT) built by Ferrari, but by PININFARINA (Coachbuilders also have to earn a living). Even you could go out, buy a 456GT and let PF build a 5-seater coupe body on it. (if you have the money of course). We will love you for the result, most likely. Secondly, having seen the Venice it is actually not the piece of crap that you describe. I think I have said it before, but I would much prefer to be seen in a venice than in a Cayenne. IB4R's comments about the low-rider picture are 100% spot-on. If tuners want to go extreme on a SUV than they should increase the suspension travel and put 25 inch wheels under the thing, rather than try to make it look like a sportscar. |
| In the first place, outlaw......... |
| motorhead 12-12-2002 |
why did ferrari ever think of making the 456 gt venice. And my god, they actually built a few(godness) for the stupid, dumb ass people who wanted to buy that crap. and the sultan of brunei has about 3 of this, my godness if i had the money, i would not even buy one! Why can't porsche or ferrari come up with a 5 seater coupe. That would be fantastic and all the complains from people like us will dissapear and complements will replace them. |
| All the magazines... |
| IBrake4Rainbows 12-12-2002 |
Are talking about how Porsche seems to have achieved what it set out to do: Create the Porsche Of SUV's. Porsche has really dropped the ball on this one i think, and comparisons to the 456GT Venice are not without merit, considering they are both loathed by the people to which they are meant to be appealing to. A porsche SUV was always a bad idea, and they just accentuated the ugliness by adding all those front vents, they would do nothing for the off-road capabilities of the vehicle, flooding the engine when trying to do a moderate river crossing, one which the other 4WD's would be able to cross with little trouble. Porsche insists that this SUV is a full blooded 4WD, and during the build-up Advertising they tried linking a linage back to the Rothmans 959's that so dominated the Paris-Dakar Rallys of 84/85, a stretch at the most, they were both 4wds, and both porsches, thats about it. so far the only sports car manufacturer to do a half-decent job of something like this was Lamborgini, when the LM002 came out in the late 80's, it was more than a match for the Hummer, and the Sheiks loved it. maybe they could learn to love this, i certainly couldn't... |
| Braindead, maybe? |
| Outlaw 11-12-2002 |
"456 Venice, is indeed a wagon or variant, to tell it the german way, but the fact is: it's NOT a production model BY Ferrari BUT a custom model BY Pininfarina built under specifications of some extravagant customer (I guess all of them, along with some other special Ferraris were built under instructions of the sultan of Brunei (the small -s- in sultan is intentional)). Now I hope U understand that being Pininfarina a coachbilder and car-design firm (usually involved with almost every roadgoing Ferrari model) it's not that unusual for them to make that sort of ""experiments"", and they also have this bizarre attitude to sell some of their prototypes sometimes (for example some years ago they sold the original Mythos protorype to a Japanese customer). So please, don't just go around spitting nonsense like this, how can U even compare a few custom 456 SW by Pininfarina with mass production of the Cayenne by Porsche? Can U feel the difference between these 2 concepts: few units VS mass production? Now, about the Cayenne, just yesterday the ""picture of the day"" on this site was a Cayenne with low-rider suspensions ...and guess what it resembled? Exactly, just a very expensive AWD Station Wagon, something like the Subaru Forrester but with sportscar's tyres. So, please don't let your fingers run faster than your brain or you'll end up writing crap and make yourself ridiculous.""" |
| why................... |
| motorhead 11-12-2002 |
What is wrong with all of you all. Porsche wants new customers and thats it. They did not want to make the most beautiful SUV on the planet(it is ugly though). They wanted to make a good, realiable and fast SUV. But let me get things straight, i bet you guys have seen the ferrari 456 gt venice. that is a real and i mean real crap from ferrari and i see nobody saying bad things about it. That 456 is so damn nonsensical and it is worst than the cayenne and which idiot said the cayenne is a station wagon. you crazy or something!! It is a SUV(my god how many times must i say this). The 456 is a station wagon not the cayenne. I have sat in the cayyene before and it is really confortable. It has a really nice interior(nicer than the X5 and M-class but not as nice as the range rover MK3 or Toureg) and all the buttons and stuff are all laid out properly. Porsche making an SUV is already a really really really really bad thing(i love porsches you see)but the worst thing is that porsche built a SUV to target the X5?!?! Now, what crap is that. When you built an SUV you are supposed to target the range rover(like what VW did with their toureg) and the toureg is actually damn good. So i just hope this is porsches first and last time in making something like this!!!!!! |
| Poor Porsche |
| Dark_Saint929 10-12-2002 |
All this uber-truck can hope to be is a glorified station wagon that can go. Sure it has power, and handling, but look at it. It's (in my opinion) an ugly glorified station wagon. |
| Whiner? |
| IBrake4Rainbows 28-11-2002 |
"Well, I don't know about you, but unfortunately my mother doesn't own an Explorer, she's even remotely intelligent and bought a REAL car, a Honda Accord, same reliability, same comfort, no badge and hence lower insurance, and the knowledge that when she hits something, the other person won't be flattened, or be worried about her poor precious car getting a scratch. It's an SUV right? take the thing off road PorscheOwner, then see how ""special"" you feel behind the wheel while others who bought SUV's for there real purpose go off and enjoy life, while your precious motor is bogged because you forgot to fit the dirt tyres. oh, by the way, hope you don't feel too embarresed knowing that your car is in fact related to a lowly Volkswagen! this is IBrake signing off with a ""same to you buddy"" one finger one thumb salute PorscheOwner!""" |
| tasteful sticker |
| henk4 22-11-2002 |
"Dear Porsche Owner, maybe the text on your sticker should read: ""I only care about myself and don't give a damn about what you may think about that"" May be this sticker would not even be necessary, because it is clearly the message this truck will be sending out to the world. Car Magazine recently tested the Cayenne and made the following interesting observation: If you start looking for the point of this car you already missed it. It is just a rich man's toy with a nice badge and that's why people buy it. You will probably also buy a Porsche lawn mawer if it would be available, and for your historic perspective, Porsche did produce tractors in the fifties, could be your ultimate classic vehicle.""" |
| "I like it; get over it""" |
| PorscheOwner 20-11-2002 |
"To all you whiners: Let me give you the perspective of someone actually on top of the Turbo waiting list: I like Porsches, always have. If you've never owned one, I doubt you can understand the visceral combination of high-performance and good engineering combined with every day usability. I can't WAIT to get my Cayenne. We buy a new-model car at least every second year. Save your rich guy slurs, and get a better job instead. I drive a 2001 Porsche Turbo, and my wife finally traded her Boxster for a 2002 911 Targa. We also own an SUV for the dog, groceries, and of course the kid-related stuff like furniture and general family-travel. It's an X5 with the big engine, and though I like it a lot, it's no Porsche. We've taken it from SoCal to Canada and back, and several trips to Napa. Bullet-proof reliability. Not a Porsche, though. Regarding supposed driving skill cliches: my wife and I are both race school 'graduates'. Barber at Laguna Seca, and Bondurant. Try not to hit US in YOUR brakeless, powerless Explorer that you secretly borrow from your wife or mom every time you actually need to move something larger. I wish wish WISH there was a (small, tasteful) sticker I could put on the back of my Cayenne: ""I don't care what you think of my car, or what you think it says about me!!!"" Hehehehe...this will, however, be my first Porsche with cup-holders. Heck, maybe I'll even chrome the wheels (though I doubt I'll actually get myself to go that far.) It will have a nav-system, too...Oh, and one of those backing-up aids that beeps when you get too close to another car....wait till I tow my RS to the track with my Cayenne! Now THAT'S stylish. So from all of us awaiting Cayennes, I offer you this Bronx salute! See you in the twisties, whiners! """ |
| Energy2.... |
| IBrake4Rainbows 16-11-2002 |
the Cayenne and Tourag (pronounce toe-rag) are basically the same car, made by two differant companies. They share much common linage, see the doors, and basic line fo the bodyshell, but the Toe-rag will always look the more jointed car, it has no sports linage to try and incorporate into it's $wd bodyshell, the Cayenne does.....but less sucessfully than they may have hoped. Maybe next time Porsche, if there is a next time...... |
| why has VW made a very very similiar SUV to the cayenne? |
| energy2 9-11-2002 |
can someone tell me why the VW tourag, or however you spell and pronounce it, looks so similar to the cayenne, but does one better and is better looking than the cayenne? have they shared the same platform? ALso, 450bhp may of sounded a gigantic figure 2 months ago, but now with the e55 and rs6 450bhp doesnt quite look so great now. I also heard that porsche may do a diesel varient in 2004.....I always thought porsches were a bit too common for my liking, and i predict thanks to the cayenne and boxster,porsches have lost their mystic. Even the next generation carrera is going to have a v8! whats going on? or is this porsche management board just trying to make more money? |
| Errrrrm yes |
| Propercarnut 2-11-2002 |
Damn this thing's ugly. The Turbo's the only one worth going for - if you're gonna look this stupid it's helpful to be able to bugger off into the sunset at an alarming rate. OK, so it's remarkably, irretrievably ugly, but let'f forget that for a second. The technological advances developed for the Cayenne are very impressive. It's loaded with gadgets and neat interior design features. But by far the best thing about this vehicle is the engine. I love V8's. I love Porsches. So how do I feel about Porsche V8's? The thought makes my underpants rather sticky. I simply cannot wait to hear one bury the throttle and growl off at some traffic lights. Please please please Porsche can you put this engine in a 911 for us? That'd be nice. Very nice. |
| Yo guys seriously . . . . |
| pinifarina 21-10-2002 |
"STOP BEING RIGHTEOUS!!!!!! this ""marketing segment"" that you guys speak of is BS! of course they want a piece of the SUV pie,but whats gonna happen to the pie? Its gonna be all gone once someone eats it! No one is going to eat the fact that Porshe has thousands of trophies. If it aint broke, dont fix it! you know where im getting at? As a pragmatist, I would strongly let the opinion of ridiculousness rule over u guys that are advocating this ""change"" in Porsche. Porsche has a LIVING history that is now being sold out by some maketing exec who thinks that they will not live to tomorrow if they dont build an SUV. This is going to be a big mistake. We learn from history, not some statistic that is only a fleeting FAD. I must say that im not disappointed, but very curious as to what will happen to the Cayenne and its creator when the SUV infatuation is eaten up. Good luck Porsche, you'll need it.""" |
| If only... |
| IBrake4Rainbows 16-10-2002 |
"I believe a lot of you had this discussion about the X5 when it first came out. The fact is, Porsche needs new models. It had the same dilemma in the 70's, hence the underwhelming 924 and ""not a real porsche"" 928 were born. Porsche have killed a lot of projects, such as the Four door 989 concept from 1991. But most of the gambles have paid off. Maybe this one will too, if they have judged the market right, which, by the sounds, they have. Enthusiast, balk all you want, it's the buying public that usually make the decisions on these matters. It would be a shame if this cruddy SUV cost the brand it's freedom, or life. Oh, and a little factoid for you, Porsche will not only put it's future in jeopardy, but also the 911, when they release a Boxster Coupe in 2005.""" |
| kill?? |
| henk4 14-10-2002 |
I am afraid this car will not only be killing other cars, but other people as well. I have made previous comments on the basic flaw of the SUV concept, that is that it is considered to be a Sports (Utility) Vehicle. Well, it is not. It is just a plain heavy thing that will go pretty fast in a straight line, can take a lot of passengers and cargo, but then imagine the inertia you will have to fight with when negotiating sinuous roads, where the true sportscar will excel. Imagine this thing in the hands of would be (female?) Porsche drivers who now think that they a driving a sportscar and try to drive accordingly. From a commercial point it may be justified, but why oh why has this market developed in such a way. |
| Well Said |
| Armstrong33 13-10-2002 |
You were right in every way in the comments you said CIMOTA. I really think that this SUV could kill just about any of the cars out there.....and the first half of 2003 the SUV will be on the market for every one.........it will beat any car. |
| Whats the Problem !!?? |
| cimota 12-10-2002 |
Whats the problem with you guys commenting on the cayenne. So what if porsche wants a piece of the pie as well in that market segment. Do you think that they lost there sporting spirit by doing that, hence the car accelerates in 5.50 secs with 450bhp on the wheels and oh my god AWD. Come on guys give some credit to the germans for being so coragious and compete in the suv market. Whats wrong if a family man wants a sports car can afford it but cannot buy it coz obviously he cannot fit all the family members in it, the cayenne is the answer for it. The cayenne an Suv with the hearth of a throughbred racer. About time they came out with something like this. You want style .....then drive porsche. I would like to see the faces of people when they get smocked by a cayenne on the road. |
| Smart business! |
| MMO 5-10-2002 |
"Like Dutch Mandel said in his commentary on Motor Week recently, ""Porsche isn't trying to convert or entice their usual Porsche buying people to buy a Porsche SUV, they're looking for completely new customers."" They'll definitely get them with the Cayenne too. Just imagine how many women will finally be comfortable buying a Porsche, when they pick up their Cayenne. They're already driving plenty of ML's and X5's so the Cayenne will do great against those two. I honestly don't think this decision to hit the SUV market will affect their sportscar segment at all. Of course it was a huge shock to myself and the rest of the auto enthusiast world, but in the end it will be worthwhile for Porsche. It's all business! I think it's smart business. Worst case is that the Cayenne doesn't meet sales expectations and they discontinue it. That still won't affect the 911 and Boxster series.""" |
| ?????? |
| ralliart77 2-10-2002 |
just three words. ugly,ugly,UGLY! Its human nature motorhead. once a bandwagon is formed, everybody wants to jump onto it. Everyone wants a piece of the pie. Thank u Ford explorer for giving us the most hideous form of four wheelers. Well nothing more to say than this is reality...welcome to the real world! |
| vw and audi |
| motorhead 29-9-2002 |
Vw and audi have split into 2 groups, vw, bugatti, bentley and skoda in the VW group and audi,lambo and seat in the audi group. The Vw toureg and the cayanne have exactly the same looks actually but the very smart ferdinand piech (former VW chairman) changed the lights and a few other things. He ownes half of porsche anyway. he is Ferdinand Porsche's grandson man. the interior is totally different. The toureg's interior is a million times better than the cayenne. Porsche built this cayenne because they did a survey and found out that porsche buyers have families thus they have 2 or more cars in the family so they built the cayenne. They should have built something like the merc Cl a true 2+2(the carrera is not really a 2+2)instead of the cayenne. Or maybe they could have come out with a 5 seater coupe(who knows). If they were building this they should not have used the carrera shape for the front and that actually spoils the look of the cayenne. My friends father wanted to sell his carrera immediately when he saw the cayenne and realised that porsche is no more a true sports car maker like ferrari. |
| WTF |
| GeoBem007 28-9-2002 |
What the hell are you guys talking about? Porsche is gonna do a remake of the 928 GTS (the only Porsche with a front-V8) and they're gonna make a 3door coup�Efor 30.000$/�! but they are not gonna make a station wagon, neither a saloon! this car is a great progress for today, cuz there are people who have the cash to buy a Porsche but they have kids that can't be placed in the back of Porsche Turbo, so here's the Cayenne! +, the SUV is making great progress in sales these times! and they are not gonna make 35 variants! would you know how many � that is gonna cost Porsche ? it won't even be sold, or almost not, so it would be one great loss! Ow yeah, I've you haven't heard, VW is also making a SUV, the Toureag or something... and you probably know that VW owns Porsche (and Lamborghini, Seat, Skoda, Bentley or Rolls (don't know wich one, one is owned by VW and the other by BMW) and Audi) this car is gonna be good! |
| They have to 'compete' |
| dreamracer15 27-9-2002 |
Porsche is still has to compete. I never heard of them making a 4-door or Sportwagon. 4-door if they do make one, theres something wrong or someone wants a 4 door Porsche, for sure I wont buy one, if Ferrari ever did a 4-door, Porsche should. Lamborghini should make a new SUV. Ferrari see if, there capable of making an SUV. Even Bugatti, should try making an SUV. SUV from Porsche, great thing, to ever happen or is it? |
| Superb Sports SUV |
| nis 27-9-2002 |
Will perfom well due to its magnificient history and after all a very good badge - PORSCHE! |
| Mistake!!! |
| Unknown 26-9-2002 |
I think this car is a mistake for Porsche. It's design isn't, well, that elegant. Maybe if this car comes out with a full manual, I will change my mind. Fortunately, Porsche have made up for this car's crapness by releasing the beautiful Carrera GT... |
| a porsche? AHAHAH funny, you're kidding, right? |
| Outlaw 26-9-2002 |
"I was quite used to ""sister cars"", you know 2 or more brands making a car with a lot of parts in common. I said I was used, yes, but to see these things happen between Peugeot and Citroen or volkswagen and Seat. But really I wasn't prepared to see another partnership between Porsche and volkswagen after the 914 series. take a look at the new VW SUV and a glance at this Porsche's SUV, so you do see for yourself they are basically the same car, it's pretty easy to see especially if you have a sideview of both of them. Now I would like to know what Porsche and VW have in common, except for being german auto brands on planet Earth, that is. Somebody here said this is a headturner, more than a purple Diablo ... well, sure it WILL turn many heads when you see one parked right next to the brand new VW SUV ...but just to count the visual differences between the 2 ...using one hand. But to me the funniest thing is the VW looks even better, the hatch with specific lights design looks better (of course this is just my personal opinion) and VW doesn't have all those fleshy alluminiumalluminium painted parts, VW styling is more sober and balanced. About the performances, well it accelerates like a sportscar, but so high from the ground it doesn't possibly match a sportscar's handling, so what is it good for? For the rich ridiculous people that will drive it almost exclusively on normal roads, the same ridiculous people who buy a car thinking ""all the people will envy me on top of my big expensive car"" the very same people that buy the X5 to name another expensive absurd SUV (the most absurd X5s are those with lowered body with airdams and sideskirts, I'd really enjoy an off-road performance of one of these freaky cars) ...in the 80's only arabs used to buy this kind of ""things"" seems like a lot of people share their ""peculiar"" tastes nowdays. Ah, I almost forgot, this dinosaur will obviously sell a lot, in the end there is a Porsche logo on it for everybody to see.""" |
| what happened!!!! |
| motorhead 26-9-2002 |
Porsche is going crazy at the moment. It just built an Suv. Porsche building a SUV!!! Something very wrong there. I heard they are going to built sportwagons, four door coupe(what the hell) and the next carrera after the 996 the 997 will have a 3.8l flat 6 and the carrera after that the 998 will have porsches first flat 8 engine. The 997 porsches will have a 4 door coupe(what the hell) and the 998 will have a sportwagon. What the happening to porsche i do not really know. |
| Best Suv |
| Cyenne_the_Best 16-9-2002 |
I like the design of the car it's kind of smooth car. as some one said before wait till it comes out. God it's a cute looking car. not a sports car and it's not a SuV it's beautiful car... In my eyes it is exerent SUV + SPORTS CAR |
| Clash of the Segments |
| IBrake4Rainbows 9-9-2002 |
And now the award for the most well planned, but (in my eyes) poorly exectued cars in the world? The Porsche Cayenne!!! For all the techno gadgets and high performance the Cayenne has, I find it does not sit well with the image that Porsche has carved out for itself in over 40 yrs of sportscar production. I just hope that this isn't the way porsche will conduct business from here on in.Now, according to the sales charts, i'm out of touch with the buying public, but frankly, I'm glad. Maybe good in America??? |
| best 4wd car? |
| scuderia360 14-8-2002 |
"The statement that the Cayenne Turbo is the best 4wd next to the Skyline is one that I disagree with- even within Porsche itself, the 911 Turbo is 4wd, and one of the greatest supercars of the modern era- Evo car of the year in 2000. As much as Porsche might spend on development of the Cayenne, it can not drive as well as the 911 Turbo by virtue of engine placement, weight of the car, and the relative height of the car off the ground. The Cayenne is a car/truck produced simply to make money; Americans will buy it because of their love for wasteful SUV's and because of a brand name. Other than the 911 Turbo (and I would also argue that the Carerra 4S would be a far superior car), here are a few four wheel drive cars that come to mind, outside of Porsche, that have a level of performance, refinement, exclusivity, and/or class that put the Porsche truck to shame(these are production cars):Lamborghini Murcielago, Audi RS6, Mitsubishi Evolution VII (try the sprint RS), Subaru WRX STi. """ |
| Grrrrrrrrrreat |
| ferrarif50 13-8-2002 |
"One statement. Best AWD on the planet, besides the Nissan Skyline. But one thing, this is and SUV! I wouldn't exactly go offroad with it though. I'd drop it some and make it a great street ""truck"".""" |
| New info |
| Armstrong 12-8-2002 |
At Motor trend's website they said that the 0-60 time is 5s flat.....thats amazing. This is a sports car, just with a high center of gravity. |
| Porsche SUV? Is that wise for brand image?? |
| breistul100 3-8-2002 |
It's ugly, terrible ugly, designers could have done a more elegant sexy SUV if they wanted too. It looks like a fat mama. But it drives well, but is it a good brand image in the long run, time will tell. If this is a hit, why dont do fast elegant 4 door saloons too.?? |
| interior |
| energy2 1-8-2002 |
The interior echoes porsche all rond, but i dont like the triangular steering wheel, why has porsche done this? its also got to be remembered that porsche is the most profitable car company in the world, and i think the cayenne will be a success. On the grapevine- they are thinking of doing 35 variants on the cayenne, and if people dont like this one, wait till you see the pick-up! |
| its an autto0 but then again 45 percent of porsches are |
| energy2 1-8-2002 |
this car maybe an auto, but you can't really have a manual SUV, BMW X6 4.6, is auto.....and also, many porsches are sold with tiptronic transmission, which are either buttons on the steering wheel , or full auto mood (which most owners use). - even the 996 turbo has a auto option. the cayenne turbo, has 450bhp, and drives like a supercar- how can that be girly? |
| Porsche in automatic?? |
| Hyperblade 31-7-2002 |
well, this is a very impressive car, or shall i say SUV but still and porsche in automatic. a porsche is a supercar that has the standard transmission for a reason, to feel it fly. the super speed is impressive but not neccessary because for off roading an SUV needs to tough but this looks like a girly car. Power needs a standard. |
| U get it all |
| Armstrong 30-7-2002 |
This Porsche is better than any other SUV and in most cases it is better half the sports cars out there. Its got so much horsepower and with a 0-60 of 5.5s its good competion for any sports car. |
| wait till u see it on the road, |
| energy2 30-7-2002 |
I went with my father to the spanish importer of Saab, before i arrived in barcelona airport, i didnt know the saab importer also imports porsche. waiting outside the airport, was the first cayenne turbo in Spain- a drk blue one, and it looks like a monster! i sat in the back seat, and wow- that car drives like a porsche 996 carrerra , only a bit slower.. people say its ugly, but this car will not only sell in thousands, but it drives amazing. and you get more looks in it than if u were in a purple diablo |
| porshe cayenne |
| alon 22-7-2002 |
This car is look German and I hope it feel German(if could I only afford to drive one). In fact, I mixed this one with BMW SUV initialy. Needless to say that it is a classic, desirable and excuisite automobile. I don't know if company announced prices already, but clearly this car is beyond financial capabilities most of drivers. SUV from Porshe? What a great idea!!! |
| step aside ESCALADE |
| Armstrong 14-7-2002 |
this is by far the best SUV ever built it looks weird to some, but if u see it enough it starts to grow on u. this is so cool and i would buy one in a second. no other SUV out there even comes close in performance. |
| A Quote |
| Majin Kakarotto 14-7-2002 |
"To Quote my mother. ""Porsche has been taken over by the baby-boomers at last!"" The only wagon or SUV I want!""" |
| wooooooooooooooowwwwwwww |
| kingluke182 13-7-2002 |
that is the fastest 4*4 i have ever seen.some sports cars are not even that fast!!!!!!! |
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