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| no SSX |
| crisis 28-4-2003 |
haseeb, I checked the website. Whatever designation they give that car over there it is what we know in Australia as a VY. The SSX has not been built yet. The front and rear look very similar to the VY but the main difference is the SSX has a hatchback boot lid and a drop down tail gate, much like a station wagon. The interior is designed to lay flat in the rear again like a station wagon. It is also four wheel drive. You may want to check out the Holden site out of interest. www.holden.com.au. It has a whole section devoted to the SSX and may be intersting to compare the variants that you have over there. You can check out the new Caprice which you will be seeing soon no doubt. |
| Holden SSX Concept |
| haseeb-exotic 24-4-2003 |
crisis, the vy commodore has been released here as the 2001 lumina.it comes in types: ls & ltz [family saloon] wagon [station wagon] & ss [sports saloon] the ssx is the 2003 lumina as i have sat in a lumina as it is quite common here , in addition it looks EXACTLY like the ssx from the front, rear & inside. u can even check ou the lumina range at general motor's middleeast site : gmme.com |
| re Lumina |
| crisis 2-4-2003 |
haseeb-exotic, the car you are referring to is the VY Commodore, Commodore SS, Monaro and Statesman. They ship them out of Adelaide regularly. The SSX is a concept that has not been built as a production car yet. |
| a wierd fact |
| haseeb-exotic 27-3-2003 |
it might sound strange but the SSX concept is available here in the market in dubai but is known as the 'lumina' its availabe in 5 models: ltz & ls [family saloons] ,wagon [stationwagon] ,ss [sports saloon] & s [sports coupe]. |
| we met again |
| crisis 26-2-2003 |
I havent and wouldnt say anything negative about the BA Falcon because I havent driven it. Its the best looking Ford for a long time and is a vast improvement over the last effort. Im glad we agree. As far as the failsafe cooling on Commodores , deal with it. Its computer software which the Commodore has as long as the Falcon. Funnily a friend of mine needed it a brand new Falcon he was driving home from the dealership for his company when. It overheated about 5 k's from the place he picked it up. It worked well luckily as when he rang they told him to take it home and they would book him in in a couple of days to fix it. |
| Commodores ARE crap! |
| Kick Holdens 15-2-2003 |
There is no way in the world Commodore has failsafe cooling. On such an ancient design of engine how could it be possible? It's the closest you'll ever get to the Flintstones, so dream on about it having failsafe cooling. You're right, there are a lot of gullible people out there who think the Commodore is good. Fleet use them for 40 000 k's and then hand them over to the second hand market. Some have had trouble with the cars within that period. People in recent times have opted for the Commodore because of: 1. They look good 2. They were designed as a driver's car (good thinking)and hence appealed for levels of comfort. 3. Commodores resale higher than Falcons. 4. Race track success 5. Marketing expertise These reasons don't show that the Commodore is a good car. They just have a lot of appeal, and most people do not look at what's under the skin. These are the only reasons Commodore had more appeal than Falcon. Just open your eyes and look at all the ancient technology the Commodore houses. There are barely improvements anywhere since the launch of the VT. Minor tweakes, a different shell, and THAT's IT! Can't you see the Falcon is a WAY more thorough job and would crap on the Commodore in so many ways? Suspension is good, Engine AND gearbox are good, two piece tail-shaft, Interior is beautifully designed, Exterior looks great, Features are excellent, value for money beats Commodore - MAN! Just open your eyes to reality! The VY Commodore isn't half the improvement the BA Falcon is. Can't you handle that or something? By the way, you'll have to admit the BA is far more world-class than what the Commodore is. Commodore still runs the same technology found in the VN - WOW, how IMPRESSIVE!!! |
| Cupholde lid? |
| IBrake4Rainbows 10-2-2003 |
Man, oh man. You really need to get out more. Once again blinded by the blue oval. I myself am a person who believes if a car is good, looks good, goes good and generally is good, then it deserves some sort of respect. The BA falcon ain't exactly world class, neither was the VT, but which of those is being sold O.S (NZ don't count, BTW)? because of superior business structure and the cash to back up the flash? ummmm..... and as for the Vy sales slowing, that may come from INCREASED COMPETITION? cars like the new camry, and indeed the BA are giving commie a run for it's money for a change, but mark my words, they won't be down for long, and the result will be a better car for austraila. and before you call me a boofhead who probably drives around in his Vl with the exaust falling off, thinking it's an aftermarket accesory, i drive a euro. Superior quality, superior styling, superior engineering, and indeed a good car. |
| flogged |
| crisis 9-2-2003 |
"I have'nt read a road test where the AU flogged a VT/VX. What I have read is that the AU is considered the better of the two as far as some aspects of handling goes. Put it up against a Magna or a Camry and see if it fairs as well. But we dont want Camrys and Magnas so we accept the compromises. Unless you have driven them all, the actual differences are subjective. I have driven a VX and VY and found them both to be good. The VY is better. I've had a Camry which had great road holding, smooth quiet comfortable ride and great cornering. Would I trade back my VY SV8? NO. ""HIgh Tech"" featuress like failsafee cooling eh. Commodores have it. GM probably didnt think it worth mentioning. The fact is if the Commodore is such a pile of crap, there must be a lot of stupid gullible people out there willing to believe what their fed by GM. Then again we all generally believe what we want to believe." |
| priceless? |
| Kick Holdens 5-2-2003 |
"Even though Ford built the BA Falcon, I found something not to like. The cupholder cover lid wouldn't close in a BA Falcon XT demo model I sat in. However, that's no drastic problem. The Current model Commodore could well be called a VT series 5, since it houses the same components as a VT series one; perhaps patched up here and there, and of course we won't forget that 'awesome' gen3 V8. The VY is very similar under the skin to a VT, with minor tweaks here and there, and nothing more. It's outstanding success was purely based on the failure of Ford's AU model Falcon, which already was ahead of the Commodore in many technical elements (failsafe cooling, OHC, Adaptive shift auto, 357Nm, build quality, power steering pump etc.), but only failed because of its socially unacceptable styling. The BA is about 10 steps ahead of the AU. The Commodore's styling, however, won the approval of plenty of people who wouldn't know anything about a car apart from how it looks (hence the VY's sales are slowing down). Performed excellent in roadtests huh? How come AU XR Falcons always flogged the Commodores because of their outstanding handling characteristics and general on-road manners? And YOU were accusing ME of grabbing all MY facts out of magazines? Where'd you pull all this roadtest crap from then? The VY Commodore may be quite a good car (all quality elements aside), but next to the Falcon, its main competitor, it does look like a totally outdated piece of sheet-metal. Technically, Ford is now miles ahead of Holden, and a cast-iron block is not a bad thing. Just think of its rigidity, and maybe you'll see the logic. The Commodore has performed excellently in racing, but mention to me just one similarity between a V8 supercar and a road-going version of the Commodore aside from its shape. So, Crisis, I tell you I have reason not to like the current Commodore. Under its beautiful skin it's hiding a lot of flaws, flaws you're probably blind to (because of Holden's excellent marketing techniques that ensure people like you are conned into believing the Commodore is 'world-class'). So stop preaching to me about how 'wonderful' these cars are. Maybe I should test drive both the V8 Commodore AND the V8 Falcon, then decide which is better. Then again, I may not even need to go that far!" |
| Hey Kick Holdens: here's an idea! |
| ssilvik 4-2-2003 |
Hey Kick Holdens: Maybe you're trying to convince yourself and not US. Motorsport is one of the best ways to weigh and measure a car's ability... performance, reliability etc. Why don't you go chit-chat on the Falcon if you think it's a better car. Maybe because even you've seen the V8 supercar races where 75% of the Holdens end up in the first half and more than half of the Holdens are in the bottom half and even the rest are usually mediocre. The Holdens are winning races, the Corvettes are winning races and GM is winning against cheap Ford products. |
| credit where due? |
| crisis 4-2-2003 |
Your priceless kickholdens. If GMH built the BA Falcon you'd find something not to like. Your BA V8 messiah has a cast iron block. Sound a little dated to you. For all of the dated technology you beleive is contained in a current model Commodore, it has performed exceptionally in the areas of sales, racing, exports and in road tests, given its humble background. And while Ford has caught up and possibly topped GMH at this moment, Id like to know if you have even driven one of these wondercars youself. You parrot criticism about the suspension and gearbox of VX/VY Commodores straight out of the motor magazines. Do us all a favour and go test drive a VY Commodore, preferably a V8.You may not like the styling and probably cant given your stated bias but that is purely subjective. |
| here's some |
| Kick Holdens 31-1-2003 |
So, what is there not to like hey? Wel if you talk in general terms like you are, then maybe you might not find much. But how about elements such as: antique suspension, a rather peaky PUSHROD V8 engine that likes to guzzle, and a clumsy dated gearbox. I'm sure I could list more things you wouldn't like. Anyway, how on Earth can you call this BEAUTIFUL styling??? |
| Actually YES! |
| ssilvik 30-1-2003 |
The SSX brings my three automotive personalities together in ONE package! No other vehicle has done that. 1. American V8 power 2. Awsome handeling afforded by AWD 3. Beutiful european styling That's a recepy for a GREAT sports car! But wait there's more! It's practical too. I could own this car AND have kids too! It's a four door! How is this car NOT a 10 out of 10 in every category? What is there to NOT like!?!? |
| Don't exaggerate |
| Kick Holdens 27-1-2003 |
You talk about this concept car as though it's perfect. Sorry, but I'd have to disagree. No car is perfect, and there's no way you could give it a 10 in every department. Just be realistic! |
| One of the best cars of ALL time... if they make it! |
| ssilvik 26-1-2003 |
Out of a possible ten point I would rate the SSX as follows: Styling: 10 Powerplant: 10 Practicality: 10 Power: 10 Originality: 10 WOW factor: 10 Interior: 10 I don't think there's another car out there I can say that about! Now make mine with a 6 speed manual and tell me where to send my down-payment. NO pun intended since its going to Australia. Oh and by the way... call it Camaro and give it 69 Camaro style tailights and speed lines on the fenders! |
| what about the price? |
| FPV_GTHO 2-1-2003 |
this car may look alright, but just think. look at the premium the v8 monaro has over the ss? add the price of al wheel drive and uve got a car that might end up costing $65000. for that u could easily by a car with alot more power and even wiht all wheel drive traction, the ssx wouldnt keep up |
| pretty good |
| Sweet 25-12-2002 |
Alright, i think this car looks pretty good... i dont know much about cars so i just go on the looks, but personally, i think the vx clubsports are the best cars that Holden has produced. They were sweet cars. But anyway, i have one question... why is the fuel gate so high??? |
| Looks the goods |
| GTHO 9-11-2002 |
Im a ford man through an dthrough and i have to say this car is really nice and it looks the goods as well. |
| nice as!! |
| tha_skilled_man 28-10-2002 |
I can't wait until these cars come out...i would seriously like to buy one and i believe that the hatch back idea is a bold and good move. Keep up the good work holden!!! FORD SUCK!!!!! |
| A little anxious... |
| IBrake4Rainbows 25-10-2002 |
Holden building a hatchback??? It may have worked with the Torana, s it may work now, who knows? very innovative from the holden design team, but how could we expect anything less? from the peopl who brought us the Monaro, the utester and the Cross8. This will go into the resume as a high point! |
| unsurpassed beauty |
| iamCANADIAN 21-10-2002 |
these cars from HOLDEN are absolutely stunning. i cant believe GM hasent done anything to bring them into north america. just think of all the possibilities of a Holden division in the americas $$$$$$$$ i envy those australians |
| A leader.... never a follower... |
| mazdaman 21-10-2002 |
I am amazed and rather proud that our Australian motor industry has produced such a world-beater as the Holden SSX Concept. It's a stylish yet very practical go-anywhere motor car that doesn't appear to have a direct competitor of any kind in the entire world. Well done, General Motors - Holden. |
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