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| RE: Syncromesh... |
| bruxell 08-01-2008 |
In many ways yes Henk, I think exactly that. I'm not really a fan of basing roadcar design on racing cars as the two environments are entirely different. A racing driver is looking for absolute speed, the driver of a sportscar seeks involvement. The 430, even the Scuderia, is a sports car, and anything that seeks to make it into a pseudo racing car at the expense of driving involvement, is simple facade. When I buy a sports car, I'm not paying good money to let the onboard computer have the fun of driving. Do you know where I can still get a sports car without syncros??? |
| True |
| Type17 08-01-2008 |
I agree with Bruxell. I can't feel like I'm driving a car unless there is a clutch pedal. i have no interest in being faster in a car if my skill and timing isn't a factor. I just don't feel like I'm driving, I might as well me in a boat or a bus, all I'm doing is hanging on to a steering wheel. |
| synchromesh |
| henk4 07-31-2008 |
I assume that you then also agree to the postulate that real drivers double clutch and despise synchromesh... |
| Hi again Henk. |
| bruxell 07-30-2008 |
I disagree. The DCT is just like any other robotized manual (including Ferrari's F1 system) in that it takes control away from the driver which is the absolute antithesis of the sports car concept. I'm not saying that they should not be offered, but that a conventional manual should be as well. And let me be frank, these systems in now way give you the same driving experience of a manual gearbox. They have no mechanical link between the driver and the gearbox, and they provide no mechanical feedback, nor do they allow any development of skill. I do happen to think that a real driver would appreciate a clutch pedal despite the supposed performance decrease because the performance would depend more on his or her input. And I'm not alone in that. |
| Clutch pedal? |
| henk4 07-29-2008 |
Recently I had the opportunity to travel and drive several hundreds of km in a Golf GTI fitted with a DSG (double Clutch) gearbox). It gives you all the options of a manual, but it has the great advantage that it is quicker than a manual...I don't think "real" drivers want to slower for the sake of using the clutch pedal. |
| Almost there... |
| bruxell 07-28-2008 |
Unfortunately you can't build a car like the F40 anymore, not if you want to sell it in most markets. I think this is about as close as you can get these days, there isn't th option of putting a in truly spartan dash, with only the necessities, or anything like that. I would however like to see Ferrari give real drivers a chance at their best driver's car by putting a clutch pedal on the options list. It's all very well and good to let the majority of buyers pretend they're driving F1 cars, but for those who enjoy actually driving enjoyable cars a good shifter would be nice. |
| Sounds like ... |
| acfsambo 07-27-2008 |
Strike Eagle, your comment sounds suspiciously like the way Jeremy Clarkson described it. All in all i agree. It is getting back to the proper Ferrari's, but not quite there in the styling department. |
| The Proper Ferrari |
| strike eagle 07-27-2008 |
Lately, Ferrari has been somewhat nerdy. They concentrated on eectronics, wires, traction control, and any other things NOT needed much by a supercar. When we think of a proper ferrari, which has no unnecessary things in it. The first car we can think of is the F40. The problem with the 430 scuderia is that te computer system here is more complicated but the thing I like bout it is that computer system is nit the end of the story, it is burried and hidden away by a thick layer of something. You don't feel the computers i this car. This thing has no carpets, no radio, nothing really unnecessary in this car which is much like the F40. I actually prefer this over the Enzo, look at it... The shape of the body is purposely designed with speed in mind. It's so great to see a proper ferrari again and I hope there's more of them to come. |
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