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The only thing is see wrong wit the Hemi Darts were that that's all they could really do, and I doubt they went a whole lot fast after the 1/4. They might have been affordable then, but I bet you could pick one up today for under a quarter mil, and those would only be in collections. BTW, the "not nessecarily accurate" meant horsepower rating.
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I see you point but:Originally Posted by Fleet 500
What is officially? The rest of the world has gone metric
400 or 1000 meters are "officially" used everywhere else (except the UK and may be Australia)
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Didn't Porsche take a '80s 962, strip it down, and put in a rebuilt engine with modifications? And, how many were made? 5?The point is how fast it goes, that's what this thread is about. If you want to re-define what we're arguing about, start a new thread. Our history of going off-topic is probably best kept away from this one
But the fact is that the 962LM production car runs a 9.2 second quarter mile, and there's nothing else to it as far as this thread is concerned.
I've seen photos of it... look at that extremely low ground clearance- I don't see how it could go over a driveway leading into a parking lot or a speed bump.
I'm curious as to why it wasn't in the list I posted?
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I was going by track drag racing. The 1/4 mile has been the standard since at least the 1940s. I mean, at the drag strip, they don't accelerate up to 60 mph and stop!I see you point but:
What is officially? The rest of the world has gone metric
400 or 1000 meters are "officially" used everywhere else (except the UK and may be Australia)
Can you tell me... are there 1/4 mile races and strips in Europe, and if so, since when? The 1950s maybe?
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There are some, but I have no idea where and what is being measured. I find drag racing one of the lesser and totally uninteresting aspects of motorsports even topping oval racing in this. If I want to know what a car is capable of I'll take it to a circuit, where handling, cornering, braking etc are the decisive factors and not whether it has a braking parachute
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Yes, very true. They were far from being practical and were made for only one purpose- to dominate the S/S class of NHRA drag racing.
In fact, Chrysler had literature printed which warned potential owners that the car was not recommended for street use. Still, some bought them anyway as the ultimate street racing car- even though they would stall frequently in cold weather and have a 1,200 rpm idle speed!
If I wanted to drive this type of vehicle, I would go for the '69 440 Dart (also a production car) and have an easy 12-second car but with the relative smoothness of a 440.
This was also true with the early '60s Chevy 409, Max Wedge (413 and 426) Mopars, 421 Super Duty Pontiacs.
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I'm really curious now. I would guess there must be some 1/4 mile strips (or were some not so long ago).There are some, but I have no idea where and what is being measured. I find drag racing one of the lesser and totally uninteresting aspects of motorsports even topping oval racing in this. If I want to know what a car is capable of I'll take it to a circuit, where handling, cornering, braking etc are the decisive factors and not whether it has a braking parachute
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I think if it is done in Europe they use the straight of a normal racing track.
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You might be thinking of the LeMans car made from the roadgoing version of the 962LM. I'm pretty sure they made 5 of those.
Dauer took the completely street-illegal Porsche 962 LeMans car and decided to use it as a foundation for a roadgoing car. They built new bodywork (all carbon/kevlar), new suspension (see my comment below), and stuffed in a 730hp engine which makes it through EEC emissions requirements. the interior is all leather, with DVD/Navigation system options, surround sound, air conditioning, etc.
Very cramped though, I'd much rather indulge in the creature comforts of one of your favorite cars if very much distance factored into the equation.
Luckily Dauer created a trick modifiable-ride-height suspension for the road car, so you could adjust up for speed bumps and down for photo-opsI've seen photos of it... look at that extremely low ground clearance- I don't see how it could go over a driveway leading into a parking lot or a speed bump.
It should be on the list, although I'm not surprised that it isn't. It doesn't show up on most lists. It could be due to a lack of an "official" 3rd party test, similarly to the situation with it's top speed record.I'm curious as to why it wasn't in the list I posted?
They're planning on making 50 cars, and 13 of these currently exist.
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Some sources do correctly report on the Dauer, calling it the world's fastest street-legal production car, etc. One such example is EVO magazine. This article is from April 2004.
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Yeah, it would make sense to do that.
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Yeah, it must be what you mentioned.You might be thinking of the LeMans car made from the roadgoing version of the 962LM. I'm pretty sure they made 5 of those.
Very cramped though, I'd much rather indulge in the creature comforts of one of your favorite cars if very much distance factored into the equation.
Luckily Dauer created a trick modifiable-ride-height suspension for the road car, so you could adjust up for speed bumps and down for photo-ops
It should be on the list, although I'm not surprised that it isn't. It doesn't show up on most lists. It could be due to a lack of an "official" 3rd party test, similarly to the situation with it's top speed record.
They're planning on making 50 cars, and 13 of these currently exist.
It does look cramped; you're right- I think my cars have a little more room inside.
Ahh... I forgot about air suspension. That would certainly help on that car.
What year are they considered to be?
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I think the first 13 are generally considered to be 1994 cars. The planned 2006 update should have revised bodywork, more options, etc.
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That's what I've read, too. a 1994 model.
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Drag racing is a very American sport.
The first strip in the UK was Santa Pod in the mid 60s.
As it was on an ex US base and was surrounded by US bases it wans't a solely UK decision to start the sport
"standard" is for the US, but just like the "world Series" it isn't
Personally I think it's because we are steeped in a tradiion of road and track racing where multiple skills are needed in the designers, pits and driver. Drag has less breadth of skill needed and a real PEAK in engine build. It also reflects I think the US sports where there is action for 30 seconds and then a break for a minute and then another little spurt of activity - and THAT from an NFL fan too
Dart anyone ? ....
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