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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
    Yep and the FREE UCP SERVICE is PAID FOR by those advertisements.
    Only seems fair if someone wants to take the benefit fo the FREE SERVICE that they shoudl use the attachments to avoid OTHER advertising to entice them to click !!

    It' snot just the sam/spam/bollocks, it's the basic advertising !
    Also, Wouter ensures that acverts on UCP are "appropriate" - so he doenst' let the high-paying porn guys come on-stream. The same cannot be said of all other hosting sites.

    LOTS of hosting sites have "special" arrangements and the 'smarter' ones spot the machine link rather than the person link and block them - hence why you often see placeholders or red crdosses on inline images.
    AND as has already been said, the other sites may lose their images ( or block them ) and then the value of the posts in UCP becomes zero as the images arent' present.
    It costs me £5 a year to host my website, which is .com- get real! It's good beign able to use a FREE SERVICE, I know because there are bugger all forums which you pay to use

    There are rarely adverts to forums on image hosters

    That's either a very weird typo or an intersting insult... snot just the sam...

    Hmm, it's strange that I have NEVER seen a red 'x' on any ImageShack images. The only weird messages I get are "This image has been hosted by Tripod" or somesuch "DON'T STEAL MY BANDWIDTH".

    If you really want value in posts then yes, I agree that UCP does have a good service... but so does ImageShack. Then again, ImageShack is the only hoster I trust.

    EDIT: Actually, Mac doesn't have red 'x', it has blue '?'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IWantAnAudiRS6
    It costs me £5 a year to host my website, which is .com- get real! It's good beign able to use a FREE SERVICE, I know because there are bugger all forums which you pay to use
    Wow, you guys really dont' get what UCP is offering do you.
    Anyone NOT know where Wouter, Pieter and Rob are right now ?
    Getting all the unique photos and coverage of a major car event JUST for the readers of UCP.
    Stop trying to FIND reasons and accept UCP is business.
    We all have penny-annie sites doing nothing, getting nothing. Even my daughter has here own.

    And on your comments on forums being paid, there are as many forums LINKED to club membership. Just because you don't go to paid forum sites doesn't mean they don't exist. I'm on 4 that DO.

    You know I prefer facts over unsubstantiated opinion
    There are rarely adverts to forums on image hosters
    It's not the FORUMS the ads are for.
    Let's go through it REEAAAAL slow.
    Take company A who pays to advertise product B - lets call it a screensaver
    That company pays sites to carry their ad based on click-throughs.
    So if the same ad is hosted on UCP and site X, then there is a 50/50 chance a reader will click it at site X and not UCP. THAT is lost revenue to UCP.
    Revenue that pays to keep UCP what it is.
    Got it now ??
    That's either a very weird typo or an interesting insult... snot just the sam...
    You should know my typos by now and be able to interpret "it's not the same"
    Hmm, it's strange that I have NEVER seen a red 'x' on any ImageShack images. The only weird messages I get are "This image has been hosted by Tripod" or somesuch "DON'T STEAL MY BANDWIDTH".
    And if/when imageshack change their model as they need to generate more revenue, just think how all those posts will look then.
    What I like about UCP is Wouter isnt' clearing out old stuff. So folks can come here and see Matt's great collection or my vids, Mustangs rally pics or even Werty's Enzo collection ( sorry to all who I missed !! )
    So it's always here for everyone and anyone to refer back to.
    No other dependencies that we have no control of ( we being you and me, not UCP )
    If you really want value in posts then yes, I agree that UCP does have a good service... but so does ImageShack. Then again, ImageShack is the only hoster I trust.
    Who did you trust before ImageShack ?
    Why dont' you trust them now ??
    Did they change their policy or start charging or apply bandwidth/storage limits ??
    Been there on all 4
    EDIT: Actually, Mac doesn't have red 'x', it has blue '?'.
    Trust Apple red or blue pill ?????

    PS: Did you read the FAQ at ImageShack. I'll post them here for you .....
    " Does ImageShack® allow direct linking?

    Yes, ImageShack® does allow embedding full-size images into personal websites and auctions. However, in order for ImageShack® to continue providing free image hosting, we ask that you use clickable thumbnails whenever possible.
    "

    See ImageShack as that everyone uses THERE thumbnails so that THEY get the chance to pop-up those ads for you !!!

    What is it you're saying is "wrong" at UCP ? We seem to be doing the same as everyone else
    Last edited by Matra et Alpine; 08-21-2005 at 03:06 AM.
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    What did Wouter, Pieter and Rob do before UCP was invented- surely they went to car shows for the fun of it? This is more of an extension.

    Agreed- nearly every man and his dog have websites now, and there are tonnes- some are much more popular than others.

    I think I get the lost revenue thing... still don't get how the revenue gets there

    No images are ever cleared off of ImageShack... they just buy new hard drives and link them up (or so they say, but all my images are still around...)

    Who did I trust before ImageShack... well I found out about them through here- in one of the chop comps. I'm loathe to say it, but it was UCP that I used for images before ImageShack, BUT my main bugbear (and only bugbear) is that I can't share my UCP-hosted images. Maybe that should be a feature of being a Supporting Member- because I would join up if you could use UCP-hosted images like ImageShack hosted ones.

    Are you saying Apple is the cheap copy of the Matrix???

    Of course ImageShack ask for people to use the thumbnails- makes lookign at a page more manageable than peering at HUGE images, you can select the ones you want. There are thumbnails there purely for convienence- just like UCP has thumbnail-bitties.

    Nothing wrong with UCP at all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IWantAnAudiRS6
    What did Wouter, Pieter and Rob do before UCP was invented- surely they went to car shows for the fun of it? This is more of an extension.
    no, I'm sure it was a hobby when they dropped into the local show and did a report on it.
    BUT to go to major events and especially international events requries accreditatino and travelling.
    Add up what it would cost if YOU went to every event Wouter has given us a report on - travel, accomodation, time. Maybe then the 'cost' side of the equatino wil be comprehended
    I think I get the lost revenue thing... still don't get how the revenue gets there
    Do you WANT to understand or just accept that it is as I've said ?
    ( no point explaining the intracicies of web funding if you're not interested )
    No images are ever cleared off of ImageShack... they just buy new hard drives and link them up (or so they say, but all my images are still around...)
    YET !!
    That's the point. Lots of "free" sites and hosting companies have come and gone in the last 5 years
    Nothing in the world is for 'free' - you do realise that don't you.
    So those ads are important. If not enough clicked then the company goes bust and closes.
    Who did I trust before ImageShack... well I found out about them through here- in one of the chop comps.
    Thansk, puts your inptus in context for me.
    I'm loathe to say it, but it was UCP that I used for images before ImageShack, BUT my main bugbear (and only bugbear) is that I can't share my UCP-hosted images. Maybe that should be a feature of being a Supporting Member- because I would join up if you could use UCP-hosted images like ImageShack hosted ones.
    Excellent point. I think we should put that to Wouter.
    Woudl you be happy they were all water-marked or had the same "recommended use" as ImageShack - ie thumbnail, so then Wouters ads would get a chance of being clicked on
    Are you saying Apple is the cheap copy of the Matrix???
    Thinking the alternative reality or fantasy choice. Real or imagined worlds and benefits
    Of course ImageShack ask for people to use the thumbnails- makes lookign at a page more manageable than peering at HUGE images, you can select the ones you want. There are thumbnails there purely for convienence- just like UCP has thumbnail-bitties.
    You've missed the business reason that IS ASK folsk to use their thumbnails. Remember they are asking you to use it when using the image elsewhere. With the tumhbnail you clik to see the deatila dn BINGO up pops ImageShacks page with THERE hosted ads So THEY get the chance fo a click generting revenue !!
    Nothing wrong with UCP at all!
    So can we leave the complaints about inline images and links OUTSIDE then please ?
    "A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'

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    Beaulieu does me fine, as does Gaydon. I intend to go to SEMA some time, but car shows don't interest me amazingly, just the whole looks/speed/experience of them.

    I just don't get web funding, to be honest. Had no money from ads on my site, unless my co-partner is holding back...

    Ask ImageShack how long they've been running. You'll be pleasantly/unpleasantly surprised, depending on your viewpoint.

    Well, advertising... isn't it great???

    Maybe a tiny little UCP bitty in the bottom right corner would do it, like www.autogaleria.pl do. Not the huge ULTIMATECARPAGE.COM But I would definitely become a supporting member if there was a thumbnail-sharing image hoster that can be used publicly- and remember, with the watermark, everyone will know to go to UCP

    Yes- reality would be Windows. Harsh looks, common bugs and problems, real hard user input. Fantasy- Mac. Living in a dream world, it's perfect, and never breaks, plus it's immensely user friendly

    Do not forget that the thumbnail is for convenience as well- us males don't do multitasking, and the concept can seem strange to us that something can function as a banner and a thing of convenience.

    Meh. I like the forum itself. Prefer to use ImageShack, whatever the weather (unless some aforementioned options become available...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by IWantAnAudiRS6
    Beaulieu does me fine, as does Gaydon. I intend to go to SEMA some time, but car shows don't interest me amazingly, just the whole looks/speed/experience of them.
    I think you kind of may have missed the point. The suggestion on events was to let you realise how much COST Wouter has to bring us all the reports and pics. So if you've been to 'some' local ones, think on the costs to fly To California for the next report coming
    I just don't get web funding, to be honest. Had no money from ads on my site, unless my co-partner is holding back...
    No prob. Wouter does
    Ask ImageShack how long they've been running. You'll be pleasantly/unpleasantly surprised, depending on your viewpoint.
    not a problem, known of IS for ages too.
    THAT doesn't mean they will be around next year or FREE next year
    It's all the OTHER ones that set the trend that 'free' doesn't last forever !
    Maybe a tiny little UCP bitty in the bottom right corner would do it, like www.autogaleria.pl do. Not the huge ULTIMATECARPAGE.COM But I would definitely become a supporting member if there was a thumbnail-sharing image hoster that can be used publicly- and remember, with the watermark, everyone will know to go to UCP
    Hopefully we can get Wouter to look into that.
    Yes- reality would be Windows. Harsh looks, common bugs and problems, real hard user input. Fantasy- Mac. Living in a dream world, it's perfect, and never breaks, plus it's immensely user friendly
    You do know the fantasy world was NOT real. It was all smoke and mirrors by the great architect - Steve Jobs in your MacWorld case
    "A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'

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    how i can't find xj220 anymore
    it used to be on this site
    what happened to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 092326001
    how i can't find xj220 anymore
    it used to be on this site
    what happened to it?
    Wouter felt that the report on the car was not upto the mark and decided to withdraw it to do a proper one later. With all his work however I suppose he's quite busy. Hopefully he'll do it soon.

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