Question about the Vauxhall Viva and Opel Ascona

[d-quik]

are they badge-engineered versions of the same car or are they different?

[Matra et Alpine]

They were different.
They were the last of the MAJOR differnces though as after this the platform was shared.
Nova, Astra, Cavalier.

[d-quik]

what about the Vauxhall Victor and the Opel Rekord

different as well right?

[Matra et Alpine]

I think so, definately for the early Victor. I THINK the first one might have been the Chevette.
Vauxhall Senator/Opel Monza were definately shared platform.
I'm not so hot on Vauxhall history on the larger cars - if they didnt' rally them I dont' know much

[d-quik]

lol I love how for Europe the Rekord is considered "large" yet for americans, the first GM A-Body cars were condsidered "compact"

disgusting

[go.pawel]

lol I love how for Europe the Rekord is considered "large" yet for americans, the first GM A-Body cars were condsidered "compact"

disgusting

Disgusting?! What's disgusting about it?

[henk4]

I think the Opel Kadett and the Vauxhall Viva shared the same chassis, but were outwardly totally different, certainly the Viva I and II.
Victors were also completely different.
Vauxhall were turned into rebadged Opels at the end of the seventies or so, and they were no longer available in Holland. The best check would be to see when Vauxhall actually stopped producing LHD cars. Since then they became UK-RHD Opels.

[Matra et Alpine]

Checked -- the Kadett C and the Chevette shared the chassis.
The Kadett C was from 73. Vaxhall designed the Chevette and sold it through to 83. Oddly, EXPORTING it to Germany for 4 years after teh Kadett D was launched so that Germans coudl buy a RWD paltform

[Pando]

Disgusting?! What's disgusting about it?

How disgustingly fat many Americans are?

[d-quik]

Disgusting?! What's disgusting about it?

its disgusting cuz americans are spoiled... idiot

[nota]

The 1973-95 T-Car was GM's first 'World Car'

"Altogether the GM T-Car was sold under 25 names"
http://www.muenster.de/~mnickel/history.htm

[Matra et Alpine]

The 1973-95 T-Car was GM's first 'World Car'

"Altogether the GM T-Car was sold under 25 names"
http://www.muenster.de/~mnickel/history.htm

nice summary article.

But not really a "world car" as noted coz GM American insisted in brain-damaging it for their customers !!!

[nota]

nice summary article.

But not really a "world car" as noted coz GM American insisted in brain-damaging it for their customers !!!

They were manufactured on every continent except Antarctica and Africa (assembled there CKD?) plus Japan & Korea too, which is about as 'world' as it gets imo

Our Holden/Isuzu variant was a great little car, fun to drive with RTS suspension. After all these years there's still a popular one-make Gemini race-series going today!

I've seen road-registered versions updated with 5 litre Holden V8s

[Matra et Alpine]

They were manufactured on every continent except Antarctica and Africa (assembled there CKD?) plus Japan & Korea too, which is about as 'world' as it gets imo

Sorry, n, the article you referred to pointed out that GM USA did NOT use the same platform until much later. For wahtever reasons the US parts always decide NOT to use the "world platforms" from over the decades ( usually thought to be COST driven )
Also, Vauxhall had major differences with the Chevette they shared some of the parts with, mainly as Vauxhall being close to Ford in the UK saw the need to put a car capable of convincing the UK market away from the Escort with a nice hatchback. We had a Vauxhall Chevette back then and it WAS a car ahead of it's time. Whereas the Kadette C looked dated from day one
My comment was not taking away from GM's efforts, only to point out that there were MAJOR differences in some markets.

[nota]

Hmm, didn't all verions including US share basic T-Car platform hallmark, ie: torque tube drive with panhard rod?