Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti, 1600GTA, 156 Group A, 156 S2000
Volvo S40 and 850
Peugeot 406(STW car with Aiello)
and a few more
Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti, 1600GTA, 156 Group A, 156 S2000
Volvo S40 and 850
Peugeot 406(STW car with Aiello)
and a few more
There is no terrible way of winning
there is just winning
Alfa Romeu 156 !!!! is my favorite
Am quite partial to the Audi A4 DTM myself, but dont really know a favourite
Belive it or not i made 222 km/h on grand prix gt 2004
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the best is for scort cosworth t35
My favourite touring car is the one I have a picture of on my wall- the picture is signed by Jason Plato , and is a Renault Laguna in green. The shape before the newest one. My second favourite is the Honda Civic Type-R one...awesome!
can we put a deffinition on touring car
but if i understand than i say the mini also, pics of the wheels comming up on turn ...awsome
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My favorite is the Realtime Acura TSX, raced in the Speed World Touring Challenge. Cool little car that thing is.
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Its difficult to have a set in concrete definition. But, loosely, a "touring car" can be defined as a racing car with opening doors, a place where the back seat should be and a roof. The competing cars in the various catagories have to be based on mass production, front engine, sedans, hatches and coupes. Rear engine and mid-engined cars and low volume cars are classified in motorsport terms under various GT catagories. The reference to "opening doors" keeps NASCARs and other catagories where the cars use only the silhouette of the road car out of the definition.Originally Posted by kko
There is some flexibility with the definition. This particularly concerns some GT catagory cars. For example, the FIA GT-N catagory cars could in theory be regarded as touring cars provided the road version is built in sufficient quantities. The Porsche 911 GT3, however, is rear engined, and touring cars historically have been front engined. In the 1960s, Porsche 911 were allowed to compete in various touring car catagories, but were invariably too successful. The easiest way to ban them was to outlaw rear engined cars and say that the back seats were useless. Since then Porsche 911 have competed in GT catagories.
Another marginal example of touring cars are the both the current and the mid 1990s DTM cars. They are almost silhouette cars. By this I mean that there is a fairly standardised chassis/suspension/floorplan in use and a body which looks like a Mercedes C-Class, Audi A4 or Opel Vetra is dropped on top. And it is not a production body. Each section can be quickly removed. However, the doors on the cars do open, they are the same size and length as the road car and they are regarded by most motorsport followers as touring cars.
Another factor to consider is that touring cars can be either highly or slightly modified and do not necessarily have to share mechanical components with the road cars.
I would suggest that any car which complies with the following sets of current and past rules qualifies as a touring car:
FIA Group 1 and 2 (1960s/70s)
FIA Group A (1980s)
FIA Group N (1980s to current)
FIA Super Touring (1992 to 2001)
FIA Super Production (1996 to 2001)
FIA Super 2000 (2002 to current)
British BTC (2001 to current)
British Group 1 (1960s/70s)
DTM Group 1 (1990s)
DTM V8s (2000 to current)
CAMS (Australian) Series Production (1960 to 1973)
CAMS Group C (1973 to 1984)
CAMS V8 Supercar (1993 to current)
Speed World Challenge (US - 1990 to current)
The various SCCA and IMSA production car catagories.
Argentinian TC2000 (current)
SCCA Trans Am (1960s to mid 1970s) The current Trans Ams are silhouette racers which nothing in common with the road cars except the shape, plus the doors don't open.
Also, cars meeting the rules for various French, Japanese, German, South African, South American, New Zealand, etc national championships would qualify.
Each of the above catagories have different rules. Roughly, DTMs, V8 Supercar and Super Touring cars are all highly modified touring cars retaining only slight links to the road cars. In the case of V8 Supercar and Super Touring the body shell and floor plan of the road car are retained and not much else.
The other catagories are/were much less modified and have much more links to the road cars (including the same suspension, engine size and type).
So, you asked if a Mini was acceptable to be classified as a Touring Car. Yes it is. It was eligible for British Group 1 rules, Australian Series Production and Group C rules, and FIA Group 1 and 2 rules.
Last edited by motorsportnerd; 09-11-2004 at 06:21 AM.
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I realy love the Falcon V8, but i dont realy follow dtm or anything like that so im gona choose by looks, The Audi TT DTM looks amazing!
Wow thanks alot Motorsportnerd!
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I deffinitely say the Mercedes CLK DTM
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...hp&carnum=1295
ah!I have find a fan of alfa, my favorites are the 155 TI too , the GTA junior, the Sprint 1300 Zagato and the M3 GTROriginally Posted by DasModell
I like: The Mercedes CLK DTM
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII
Suzuki Escudo
And Cadillac CTS-V
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1 out of 4 isn't too bad I supposeOriginally Posted by italianspirit
Better than 0 anyways...
Thanks for all the fish
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