Ferrari F430 vs. Honda NSX-R

[Matra et Alpine]

i rather like the nsx's rear, expecially with the nsx-r one piece carbon wing and diffuser at the back
makes it so much more interesting then stock

Q, k_E .... have you seen one in the flesh ?

[Cotterik]

its sort of a race between two modern sports cars, and the honda does the whole modern thing much better in my opinion.

[jump15vc]

the honda may be faster conering but on a track with longer straights the ferrari would own

[KnifeEdge_2K1]

Tsuchiya used to go touge racing and owns a nsx-r and he also has the Mt. Usui touge record, so obivously he is better with the NSX-R

what's this got to do with anything, he wasnt even the one driving the nsx-r in the race i was referring to

[KnifeEdge_2K1]

Q, k_E .... have you seen one in the flesh ?

yeah, well sorta
my friend has a pre 97 nsx and has a type R replica wing on it, looks awesome

[PerfAdv]

The F430 isn't on the list but I'm thinking it'll be close to the F360 CS' time..
F360 ranked 11th and the NSX-R 46th.

I would have thought the NSX Type-R would have been faster than RX, Z, and M3 but there you go.

http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonb...times/thestig/

11 Ferrari 360 CS 1.22.3
.
.
.
.
.
46 Honda NSX Type-R 1.31.6
47 Mazda RX8 1.31.8
48 Nissan 350Z 1.31.8
49 BMW M3 1.31.8



Maybe someone could find some N'ring numbers...NSX vs Ferrari

[KnifeEdge_2K1]

the honda may be faster conering but on a track with longer straights the ferrari would own

motegi has some pretty long straits man ...
and if you corner at just a few kph faster then the other guy, that translates to quite some distance/time on the straits, in the case i was mentioning im pretty sure the difference in cornering speeds between the ferrari and nsx-r is even greater, when the nsx r went into a corner it looked like the ferrari was going backwards cuz it was so slow

[KnifeEdge_2K1]

The F430 isn't on the list but I'm thinking it'll be close to the F360 CS' time..
F360 ranked 11th and the NSX-R 46th.

I would have thought the NSX Type-R would have been faster than RX, Z, and M3 but there you go.

http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonb...times/thestig/

11 Ferrari 360 CS 1.22.3
.
.
.
.
.
46 Honda NSX Type-R 1.31.6
47 Mazda RX8 1.31.8
48 Nissan 350Z 1.31.8
49 BMW M3 1.31.8



Maybe someone could find some N'ring numbers...NSX vs Ferrari

the nsx-r was in the wet man, thats a pretty huge difference

the n'ring figures for the nsx-r and 360cs are identical

[scottie300z]

Id take the F430. The nsx-r is really good, but i feel the f430 tops it in just to many areas. (style, interior, sound, technology)

especially if the 360cs and the nsx-r times are identical since the f360cs and the f430 have the same power to weight ratio, but the f430 w/ updated suspension and other technologies is most likely faster.

[KnifeEdge_2K1]

power to weight ratio doesnt say everything
tho in the absence of other info it is a good rough estimate, but that's all it is a rough estimate

since it tells you nothing about the torque and power curves of each engine, the tranny ratios and what not

[Matra et Alpine]

yeah, well sorta
my friend has a pre 97 nsx and has a type R replica wing on it, looks awesome

Nice ( I think )
I asked because I loved the car in pics but when I first saw and drove one felt the back looked too large and flat. Like they either needed to shorten the rear end or extend the cockpit to remove the vast area of "flat"

[Niko_Fx]

Maybe someone could find some N'ring numbers...NSX vs Ferrari

HOCKENHEIM Lap Times:

1:13.0__ --- Ferrari 360 Competitione Stradale (sport auto 02/04)
1:14.6__ --- Honda NSX-R (sport auto 08/02)
1:15.1__ --- Ferrari 360 Modena (sport auto 10/99)

NÜRBURGRING Lap Times:

7:56 --- Honda NSX-R - Motoharu Kurosawa, Best MOTORing
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004)
8:09 --- Ferrari 360 Modena (10/1999)

[PerfAdv]

HOCKENHEIM Lap Times:

1:13.0__ --- Ferrari 360 Competitione Stradale (sport auto 02/04)
1:14.6__ --- Honda NSX-R (sport auto 08/02)
1:15.1__ --- Ferrari 360 Modena (sport auto 10/99)

NÜRBURGRING Lap Times:

7:56 --- Honda NSX-R - Motoharu Kurosawa, Best MOTORing
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004)
8:09 --- Ferrari 360 Modena (10/1999)

That is impressive, especially considering the NSX's power deficit. I was expecting it to be maybe even a little slower than the regular Modena, but it slots neatly between the 360 variants.

N'ring, the sport models just destroy the Modena.

Niko, did you get those lap times off Sport auto and Best Motoring websites?

[NSXType-R]

It's the NSX R for me also. It shows how well Honda engineered it back then. It's over a decade old and only minor modifications keep it competitive with the best of today's machines.

[KnifeEdge_2K1]

Nice ( I think )
I asked because I loved the car in pics but when I first saw and drove one felt the back looked too large and flat. Like they either needed to shorten the rear end or extend the cockpit to remove the vast area of "flat"

sadly ive never had the pleasure of driving or even sitting in an nsx ... just had to admire it from the outside

n since they've cut production it seems that the nsx will be outta reach, oh well dreams cant be attained easily i guess, just gotta work then find and restore an older one