Well besides the cheapest -- the local car park at 1am when it's empty.Originally Posted by nota
( I learned my rally snow driving in the Mini in my fathers works car park on Sunday evenings
BUT are you saying part of your instruction does NOT include how to hadnel skids ?
it does in the UK, so maybe it's cultural thing.
Personally I think compulsory skid pans shoudl be included and take friends and daughters to trackdays to teach 'em.
BUT we were discussing MOTORSPORT.
What a professional driver does in a skid is WAY differen tot what Joe Bloggs should be doing. On the road a skid should ALWAYS lead to a gentle throttling off and coming to a halt ... NOT as a racer would do.
It was the contentino that you "learn" from motorsport I disagree over !
Motorsport teaches how to do more motorsport
I meant it in the collective "you"Pardon me but you clearly don't know jack about how I learned, or what my motoring needs are. Its not self indulgent to master advanced car control for safety, especially on the crap roads I battle with here. I was self-taught btw, no lessons
Are you saygin your motoring lessons and compulsory testign do NOT include how to react to skids and emergencies ?
[quote]Enjoy your teflon frypan? I did, along with the Tang orange-concentrate in my larder. Trillions of $$ of spin-offs, not millions[/quote}
The BS you believed from NASA.
Best to suggest you learn how the Japanese are (were, the yen collaps eprobably nixed some of it!) doing it .... FIRST id the key technologies necessary .. THEN develop ONLY THOSE and still no going to space ... once the world source for these THEN go to space. They had identified 23 key items.
NASA "delivered" by chance ... everyone forgets all the totally useless stuff that wasted lots of money
This was standard message in US management circles 10-15 years ago with gov funded researchers advising NOT to go for big itme snad hopign to spin off cash They took the advice. Go look at "supercomputers" now .... 95% of them are off the shelf components that were DESIGNED FIRST. 20 years ago CRAY were doing unique EVERYTHIGN to build a supercomputer The "new" way.
TRYING to explain things.What the hell does controlling opposite-lock slides on a racetrack (or JC televised sado-wank sessions for morons) have to do with the jap space program for gods sake???
If you don't want explanations don't ask questions.
I'm getting pissed off at every approach now is question question .. but get a long answer that needs thought and consideration and it's crying in teh milk BS
GO FOLLOW THE TRAIN of the comments.
If you're incapable of followign them then please let me know in future.
For you I'll keep my answers VERY short and simple.
Name me ONE innovation that motorsport has brought to yoru "family car" ?Can you think of a better forum for testing automotive innovations?
It's not lean burn or low emissions or direct injection or diesel or ... do we NEED to go on ?
yeah fine, The Koenigsegg has a composite tub --- wooo-hooo, the amn in teh street doenst' NEED or want it.
Aluminium alloys are fine -- oh and BTW car racing alloys are derived from aeroplane construction methods.
And so are aero-dynamics !!
Tryign to explain POV that seemed to NOT have been understood.According to you I'm suddenly Mary Whitehouse .. so no comment except that all this hi-tech porn must have unhinged your mind - take a pill mate
See question above re future interaction.
so "unevolved"The type of motorsport >I< do enjoy watching is good clean racing. Same while watching the TV, not like unevolved knuckledraggers who evidently drool over a toffy upper class Brit-twit who descends to smashing up dunger Porsches .. must be a UK thing, as most of JC's defenders on here are a virtual en-mass el-pommo bloc I've noticed
Actually you are showign the lowest of mans nasty side -- the inability to understand and accept alternative ways of living !!!
Did you EVER consider it's because it is BRITISH sense of humour.
if you don't liek it DONT WATCH THE PROGRAM AND DONT READ?RESPOND TO COMMENTS ABOUT IT.
Yeah so am I nota.Getting to feel like the selfish consumption around here is you expecting me to keep replying to your varigated gibberish
.. getting .. so tired .. losing interest .. must preserve .. sanity .. avoid .. argueboy .. mercy .. hepl .. oops i ment to tpye .. help ..
yeah mate i'm in awe & permit me pls to admire from a (long) distance and like I said the pills in the cupboard but whateva ya reckon
I'll avoid you, you avoid me.
TRIED to be "grown up" and give explanations.
So I'll copycat and act the kid and hope you neeed an answer and I'm the only one on the forum able to give it