Saleen S7 Twin Turbo vs Ferrari Enzo

[Gtek-i]

which car do you think would win in a race? Saleen S7 Twin Turbo: 750hp, 700lb-ft torque, 0-60mph in 2.8 seconds, 2950lb (1340kg). Ferrari Enzo: 660hp, 484lb-ft torque, 0-60mph in 3.65 seconds, 2766lb (1255kg).

[DesmoRob]

I think the Ferrari would take it, I don't know why, I have nothing to back that up with.

[TheOne]

S7 TT, more power, handling is about as good(after all, both came out of some form of racing)

[fa22_raptor]

Saleen - significantly more powerful, but not much heavier. Both awesome cornerers

(PS. Huge torque difference! )

[NuclearCrap]

750hp twin turbo on 2WD and even lighter? I don't think it'll win without at least a rear wing. Racing specs without racing aerodynamics=bad. And how is it gonna handle that enormous torque?

[fa22_raptor]

This is from UCP's own info:

For 2005, Saleen upped the ante with a twin turbocharged version of the S7. The dual ball bearing turbos increase the power to 750 bhp and torque is up to a stunning 950 Nm. To match the increased power, a modified six speed gearbox is fitted. Front and rear aerodynamics were modified, with changes including a new rear wing and altered diffusors.

One would presume they wouldn't make the car completely uncontrollable.

[NuclearCrap]

Which looks more like a much more effective rear wing to you? This or this?

And what's so much different in the "rear wing" and aerodynamics on this and this?

[fa22_raptor]

Of course the S7TT isn't going to have as much downforce as the S7R, but then again it's not meant to have as much - it's a road car.
If you look at this picture compared to this picture, you can see the difference in the shape of both the wing and cruicially the diffuser. Now I'm not aerodynamicist, but I'm going to guess that you're going to get more downforce from the diffuser of the TT. The front of the TT has also been slightly changed. Of course, these modifcations aren't going to give it racing car downforce by any means, but every bit counts.

[F1_Master]

The enzo would win...the s7tt ran a 3.4 and the enzo doesnot run a 3.65thats f50...with the launch control....the enzo would win....the enzo is a true technological masterpiece...it use a 6.0 and has 660hp...and the s7tt uses a 7.0 and a twin turbo and "only" 750...ummm now which really is better

Really? The engine is masterpiece?
Oh, I found one that's better in your logic.

SSC Ultimate Aero: 1,000 out of a Corvette engine.

You get charged double. Every one else here is free though.

No worries Rock. I'm sure Matra wouldn't mind paying for the whole site.

Which looks more like a much more effective rear wing to you? This or this?

And what's so much different in the "rear wing" and aerodynamics on this and this?

The gap is smaller on the TT.

Plus, if you want a spoiler on it, get one off the S7 Comp. Coupe.
BTW, yes, that thing is street legal, and yes, it is loud.

[FerrariPrinze1]

Really? The engine is masterpiece?
Oh, I found one that's better in your logic.

SSC Ultimate Aero: 1,000 out of a Corvette engine.


No worries Rock. I'm sure Matra wouldn't mind paying for the whole site.


The gap is smaller on the TT.

Plus, if you want a spoiler on it, get one off the S7 Comp. C

Yea too bad it has a blower... So the enzo engine is better...FERRARI hav acheived 1000hp with the f50gt and many others

[Coventrysucks]

Yea too bad it has a blower... So the enzo engine is better...FERRARI hav acheived 1000hp with the f50gt and many others

Sorry, but apart from you saying it, do you actually have anything that proves a F50 GT produced more than the c.750bhp that everybody else quotes?

A 33% increase is a fairly significant hike.

Also, apart from an, as yet mythical, F50GT; what other cars have Ferrari produced with an out put of 1000bhp+?

[Ferrer]

Also, apart from an, as yet mythical, F50GT; what other cars have Ferrari produced with an out put of 1000bhp+?

Maybe if we put all their cars together...

[henk4]

Also, apart from an, as yet mythical, F50GT; what other cars have Ferrari produced with an out put of 1000bhp+?

I am sure you all remember the 1500 cc turbo engines used in F1 from 1981-1988...

[Coventrysucks]

FERRARI hav acheived 1000hp with the f50gt and many others

He used the word "many".

I suspect that he probably wouldn't have been able to come up with the turbo F1 cars by himself either.

[henk4]

He used the word "many".

I suspect that he probably wouldn't have been able to come up with the turbo F1 cars by himself either.

he is on my ignore list....