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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen
    Your immigration rules are far from liberal. It is far from easy to move to Canada as a foreigner right now.
    I guess for certain types, family immigrants can come here easily they just need somewhere to stay/ a sponser. People who are looking to open a buiness here also can get in fairly easily, but its the refugee status rule that is the most liberal and needs to be changed. Come to Canada, claim your a refugee and if that you go back you'll be prosecuted. All refugees get looked into but the whole sytem is messed so many don't show up for thier hearings which happen 2 years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Canuck
    I guess for certain types, family immigrants can come here easily they just need somewhere to stay/ a sponser. People who are looking to open a buiness here also can get in fairly easily, but its the refugee status rule that is the most liberal and needs to be changed. Come to Canada, claim your a refugee and if that you go back you'll be prosecuted. All refugees get looked into but the whole sytem is messed so many don't show up for thier hearings which happen 2 years later.
    I don't see what this has to do with Muslim extremists though. Refugees are generally looking for a better life and not to take over the government of the country of refuge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey
    we have extremist christians?
    hell, i barely know any christians that live here..religion is not the most popular past time
    No, it's drinking beer, farting, scratching your asses and having baaaaaarbeques

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen
    I don't see what this has to do with Muslim extremists though. Refugees are generally looking for a better life and not to take over the government of the country of refuge.
    Its the people that take advantage of the refugee status, they claim they are refugees when they are not, then when it finally comes to their hearing, they don't show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Canuck
    Its the people that take advantage of the refugee status, they claim they are refugees when they are not, then when it finally comes to their hearing, they don't show up.
    Yes you explained that, we have a similar problem over here, but my question remains: what does this have to do with muslim extremists?
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    Although I disagree about kicking people out of the country for having beliefs that differ from the government, those who abuse the way of life of a community and go out of thier way to cause trouble for the government in which the country they have taken refuge, SHOULD be looked into and possible asked to leave. The continual whinging and what not really is highlighted by the media, especially in Australia, and in particular the muslim community. For most part of that article, I agree, don't like it, then f**k off.
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    Problem is, most 'refugees' are just people lloking for an excuse to get out of their country.

    "OOO, if I go back they'll chop my head off"

    "Why?"

    "Because I stole summat"

    "Oh, that seems a bit extreme, is that the punishment for that crime where you some from?"

    "Yeah."

    "So what's the problem then?"

    "Well... it's not very nice is it"

    "Yeah, but you knew that's what would happen."

    "Racialism! You westerners have no sympathy for our plight! Blah blah blah"


    Also, there's been a huge influx of Polish people into the UK and no one has even noticed tham. They have just quietly integrated themselves into UK living - all of them speak English and I haven't heard a single demand from one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKipling
    Problem is, most 'refugees' are just people lloking for an excuse to get out of their country.

    "OOO, if I go back they'll chop my head off"

    "Why?"

    "Because I stole summat"

    "Oh, that seems a bit extreme, is that the punishment for that crime where you some from?"

    "Yeah."

    "So what's the problem then?"

    "Well... it's not very nice is it"

    "Yeah, but you knew that's what would happen."

    "Racialism! You westerners have no sympathy for our plight! Blah blah blah"
    Again, what does this have to do with Muslim extremists? Simplifications like these have caused many more problems than solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen
    Yes you explained that, we have a similar problem over here, but my question remains: what does this have to do with muslim extremists?
    Nothing really, but you said our immigration wasn't liberal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickHolden
    Nothing worse then bloody Christians knocking on your door at 11am Saturday morning to try and convince you to buy some ****en book and be part of the ****en mumbo jumbo there in. I don't force my ways on to others or them so they get the standard reply when they wake me from a great sleep.
    **** OFF!
    Those are Johava Witnesses and those ppl are ****ing annoying
    Try this . . . tell you will call the cops if they ever come on your property again
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    This is actually an old story, the premise makes sense to me...identify the radicals before they become a problem.

    Get out of Australia, 'radical' Muslims told
    By Lawrence Bartlett in Sydney | Wednesday, 24 August , 2005, 13:11
    Muslims who want to live under the Islamic Sharia law were told Wednesday to get out of Australia as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

    A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.
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    Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament.

    "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television.

    "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that that is false."

    "If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts,democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country which practises it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.

    Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country.

    Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".

    "Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said.

    Muslim schools will have to denounce terrorism as part of an effort to stamp out home-grown extremism under measures announced after Howard's meeting with 14 Islamic leaders Tuesday.

    The prime minister called the meeting in the wake of last month's London bombings by British-born Muslims, amid fears that Australia could be the target of a similar attack by disaffected members of its small Muslim community.

    "The purpose of the meeting was to identify ways of preventing the emergence of any terrorist behaviour in this country," Howard told commercial radio Wednesday.

    "You won't change the minds of people who are hardened fanatics and hardened extremists. You have to identify them and take measures to ensure that they don't become a problem."

    Asked if he was prepared to "get inside" mosques and schools to ensure there was no support for terrorism, Howard said: "Yes, to the extent necessary".

    Britain, shaken by the rail and bus bombings which killed 56 people, is debating new powers which could include closing mosques where clerics are suspected of supporting extremists and deporting those who glorify suicide bombers.

    Australia, which like Britain has troops in Iraq, is also contemplating tougher anti-terror legislation. which will be debated next month at a meeting between Howard and leaders of state governments.

    Meanwhile, an Islamic youth organisation that was not invited to Howard's Tuesday meeting said it would call an alternative conference -- on September 11 -- for what it says is the 80 percent of Muslims who were not represented.

    The Affinity Intercultural Foundation (AIF) told national radio it wants to try to change the date's association with Islamic violence, and to highlight how mainstream Muslims have become victims of prejudice and bias.

    AIF director Mehmet Saral said Muslims were feeling more victimised than at any other time in their history of living in Australia. Some 300,000 Muslims make up just 1.5 percent of Australia's population of 20 million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen
    Again, what does this have to do with Muslim extremists?
    Oh nothing at all - it was a more general statement on the way immigration works in the UK
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    now i dont want to start something but i think these laws are shit if i want to be religus which im in the middle i dont want to be kicked out of australia for being muslim and yes i am muslim and its my choice and if the goverment want to kick me out for being a musilim-australian/dutch/aboriginal/greek/scotish then kick me out
    i thought australia was a mutlicoltural country with this shit it becoming a racist goverment controling my country
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    lol extremist christians are called catholics *shudder*. up atheism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acemotorsport
    if i want to be religus which im in the middle i dont want to be kicked out of australia for being muslim and yes i am muslim and its my choice
    But do you practice your Islamic faith around the laws and cultural values of Oz?

    Or do you complain that you find women on the beach in Bikinis offensive, and claim they should be banned?
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