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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen
    Also, about a week before Koenigsegg got the record, 9ff got a like 0.7kmh top end less at Nardo.

    And finally, I belive that VW has run the Veyron up to top speed, why wouldn't they, and have the official record setting run planned for some time very soon.
    9ff seems to be a tuned Porsche so it doesn't qualify as a production car.
    There seems to be a lot of controversy about the Veyron...why doesn't everyone check Guiness in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by derekthetree
    i may be wrong on all three counts, feel free to correct me!
    Whoa! you need to correct me first...notice that the Avanti was as fast as the Daytona!
    So,How the hell did the Daytona create a record?!??!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunk
    9ff seems to be a tuned Porsche so it doesn't qualify as a production car.
    There seems to be a lot of controversy about the Veyron...why doesn't everyone check Guiness in the first place?
    Plus, the 9ff had taped panel gaps and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunk
    9ff seems to be a tuned Porsche so it doesn't qualify as a production car.
    9ff is considered a manufacturer, just like Brabus (holders of the record for the fastest production sedan - CLS Rocket) Gemballa, CSV here in Australia and quite a few others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefella
    Plus, the 9ff had taped panel gaps and such.
    They even removed the side mirrors.
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    Why is 928 in the list? It is slower than the earlier AM Zagato.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen
    9ff is considered a manufacturer, just like Brabus (holders of the record for the fastest production sedan - CLS Rocket) Gemballa, CSV here in Australia and quite a few others.
    Does 9ff even meet the emmission norms? Remember, there is no RUF CTR yellowbird on this list....how do you distinguish a tuned car from a production one?
    If I put new seats and a new audio-system in a CCR or a Veyron, will it qualify as a tuned car or a production one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4
    Why is 928 in the list? It is slower than the earlier AM Zagato.
    Just one of the things that utterly confused me. 928 set the FIA speed(from Wikipeda) record but the AMZagato was verified by a mag. Now which one do I trust?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunk
    They even removed the side mirrors.
    Right, forgot about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunk
    Does 9ff even meet the emmission norms?
    Depends on what emission norms you mean. They are different everywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by sunk
    Remember, there is no RUF CTR yellowbird on this list
    On this list yes. I believe RUF is also considered a manufacturer.
    Quote Originally Posted by sunk
    how do you distinguish a tuned car from a production one?
    It's a title handed out by relevant governing bodies in countries (in the case of a lot of the Porsche tuners, the German TUV.) The big thing is that these companies sell a car model (i.e you can go buy a RUF CTR, Gemballa Avalanche etc.) as well as just general tuning, whilst a tuner will just tune your car, sell you upgrades etc. If you own a RUF CTR, it's a RUF, not a Porsche.
    Quote Originally Posted by sunk
    If I put new seats and a new audio-system in a CCR or a Veyron, will it qualify as a tuned car or a production one?
    I doubt it'd matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen
    Depends on what emission norms you mean. They are different everywhere. On this list yes. I believe RUF is also considered a manufacturer.
    It's a title handed out by relevant governing bodies in countries (in the case of a lot of the Porsche tuners, the German TUV.) The big thing is that these companies sell a car model (i.e you can go buy a RUF CTR, Gemballa Avalanche etc.) as well as just general tuning, whilst a tuner will just tune your car, sell you upgrades etc. If you own a RUF CTR, it's a RUF, not a Porsche.
    I doubt it'd matter.
    But, where the argument for 9ff goes astray is the fact that, in the record run, panel gaps were taped up and wing-mirrors were non-existant. That would definitely not qualify as a production car.

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    Oh and I forgot. That topspeed run for the Macca was sans rev limiter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefella
    But, where the argument for 9ff goes astray is the fact that, in the record run, panel gaps were taped up and wing-mirrors were non-existant. That would definitely not qualify as a production car.
    But it's not as though they're major modifications. Anyone with a roll of gaff and a screwdriver could do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen
    But it's not as though they're major modifications. Anyone with a roll of gaff and a screwdriver could do it.
    Well, obviously. But, I'm 99.9% certain that a car without side-mirrors is illegal to drive on roads, making it's record well, unofficial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunk
    Just one of the things that utterly confused me. 928 set the FIA speed(from Wikipeda) record but the AMZagato was verified by a mag. Now which one do I trust?

    Remember that Wikipedia is filled out by everybody who wants to. This must have been a 928 fan...
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