Well I'm sorry... Jeez Louise!Originally Posted by Ferrer
Well I'm sorry... Jeez Louise!Originally Posted by Ferrer
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not too blow any brass instruments but i know more than i let on! i was perpetuating the incorrect number comparison game, where it in fact isnt that serious. ok so the merc engine is in £150k cars so it is well engineered but less durable than the Ford unit which goes to a market where high tech has less importance. Of course there are many constraints on engine design. starting with company values and expertise a company one has to consider safety (room for crumple zone), cost of design and manufacture, critical reliability, fuel economy, weight, power/torque distribution, variable technologies, lubrication, cooling, sound insulation, servicing and more. see:Originally Posted by culver
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum...ad.php?t=29726
or
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum...ad.php?t=29685
for my take on all things engine design. I have found engines hard to understand on paper, only driving em makes the difference. My favourite car i owned was a civic vti because it was just fun. the engine matched the chassis in the sense that both wanted you to push harder and faster. My current LR defender is more for my work but is more practical and makes large loads and weights easier to shift around the sites i am on. so..take these things in context please.
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OKOriginally Posted by jediali
I haven't been following the whole thing. It's sometimes hard to tell who takes things like Hp/L seriously vs who take it in context. Keep on trucking
well ts easy for boys to get distracted by numbers and (maybe pointless) technology, however it is about the context.Originally Posted by culver
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"As a means of producing so much power with a minimum of environmental impact and a maximum of fuel efficiency, it’s no surprise that BMW will be among the first to introduce 50-state clean diesel technology. After all, it often takes an independent company like ours to bring an idea like this to the public."
-BMW NA
This was on BMW of North America's website and from what I have heard they will begin introducing diesel models to the American market (and I guess they meet California emissions). I am starting to see a trend (maybe)...
Yes BMW will introduce their technology in 2008, and it will be more advanced than the Mercedes/Audi/VW Bluetec ssytem.Originally Posted by MRR
"I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting, but it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously." Douglas Adams
CARB opposition to diesels was based on particulate emissions. It is probable that with the new low sulfur fuel and urea processing that the newest diesel cars will be approved by CARB. However, in many parts of the U.S., diesel fuel is considerably more expensive than even premium gasoline so there is little economic incentive to make the change. Furthermore, if diesels are so hot why don't we see them in the Mercedes 600SL?
We will, once american start buying diesels. There were talks of a diesel V12 from Mercedes-Benz based on two V6 blocks and Audi have recently introduced the Q7 V12 TDI as a concept car. First it will be big saloons and SUV and I fear it won't be long till we see the first diesel engined sportscar.Originally Posted by ninetwoeight
Lack of charisma can be fatal.
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Peugeot...Originally Posted by Ferrer
Concept car mind you...
2000 Peugeot RC Concept
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it became much more of a concept, it was used in a French single marque racing series for diesel powered cars, running bio-diesel.....Originally Posted by Waugh-terfall
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It technically isn't a road car, but yes you could say that was the first diesel powered sportscar. Maybe I should rephrase, it won't be long till we see a diesel powered supercar.Originally Posted by Waugh-terfall
Lack of charisma can be fatal.
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Originally Posted by ninetwoeight
have a good look here....
"I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting, but it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously." Douglas Adams
Because diesel is more expensive at the pump here and some diesels are bad on emissions. Hybrids are proven to be cleaner but lack oomph. Diesels are like Hybrids...but less electronic stuff and more oomph. Only Volkswagen has been doing pretty good in North America.
I will explain it all, listen, my children.
Ok, back in the early 80s, GM thought that a good place to persue in the market was using diesel engines, due to the rising gas prices. But, because GM seemsed brainded in the 80s, they used an aluminum block, with steel inserts in the cylanders. It was basically a modified gas engine. And since the soft metal can't stand the high compression of a diesel engine, the engine would tear itself apart in a matter of time, and the cars would die prematurely. And since they made the diesel engine STANDARD on the Cadillac Seville, and plus since they installed them in the Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera, a real high selling car, many of these engines sold, and that meant a large handful of problems. So, not only has GM's reputation been hurt, but the diesel engine in general is shunned by americans doe to the disaster, even though it was 20 years ago. So, americans will never want to buy diesels due to this debiacle. but, DaimlerChrysler is trying this again, with offering a diesel engine in the Jeep line. Since this is a German engineered engine, we know that is is done right, and hopefully it can heal the Delsel's fledging reputation.
Your brain might be composed of soft aluminium but that Oldsmobile-built GM V8 diesel was not, it was all ironOriginally Posted by Prius
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