Editing in the Photo Competitions

[Piacki_117]

Here is the current rule :

The photograph must be the original upload and not edited in any way other than mild adjustments in contrast and saturation, cropping and black & white conversions

PLEASE DON'T VOTE IF YOU HAVE NEVER TAKEN PART IN THE PHOTO COMPS

[Wouter Melissen]

You should not make compromises just because the cheaters asked for it.

[john14]

In my opinion, the current rules should not be changed. People who know various editing methods would have an advantage over people who do not know about editing methods. Many people cannot use photoshop properly (for editing photographs).

[LotusLocost]

In my opinion, the current rules should not be changed. People who know various editing methods would have an advantage over people who do not know about editing methods. Many people cannot use photoshop properly (for editing photographs).

Exactly!
Then the current rules have to be changed.
Editing IS allowed now.

My opinion is probably clear by now.

[drakkie]

In my opinion, the current rules should not be changed. People who know various editing methods would have an advantage over people who do not know about editing methods. Many people cannot use photoshop properly (for editing photographs).

Car manufacturers have certain skills others don't have. Should they therefor all produce the same cars ?

[Jack_Bauer]

Car manufacturers have certain skills others don't have. Should they therefor all produce the same cars ?

What the hell has that got to do with anything?

Firstly, this is a photo competition FOR FUN. It is not a professional competition, there is no prize money on offer, therefore any comparison to a professional industry is totally irrelevant.

Secondly, where on earth do you get the idea that if people are forbidden from using editing that they will end up with the same result? That's just daft. These photo competitions have run for several years with major editing banned, and the diversity in subject, style and imagination has been remarkable. I think the way the competitions have existed thus far has been an absoulte credit to the forum, I really see no reason why a successful formula should be changed.

[jediali]

Car manufacturers have certain skills others don't have. Should they therefor all produce the same cars ?

maybe your missing the point, do you want a photo editing competition or a photo taking competition?

[Matt]

In my opinion, the current rules should not be changed. People who know various editing methods would have an advantage over people who do not know about editing methods. Many people cannot use photoshop properly (for editing photographs).

I don't think editing should be allowed, but this is a very poor argument for that opinion. Competition is competition. There are and should be advantages and disadvantages based on skill. The fact that one person has more skill than the other does not make it unfair. That's why people train and practice to get better. If everyone was expected to have the same skills and same knowledge in life, there would never be advancements in any field.

[Niko_Fx]

Editing can make a BAD photo WIN... and that defeats the friggin purpose of this PHOTO competition

If you don't feel confident enough to post a photo without editing the hell out of it then your photo sucks the big one, sorry

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

If you don't feel confident enough to post a photo without editing the hell out of it then your photo sucks the big one, sorry

Hit the nail on the head there!

[werty]

how about this:

start allowing minor editing...but when a person does edit he/she must include the original pic with the edited version...

if a majority agree too much has been done, than it has to either be out of the comp or re-edited with less done to the photo

in other words, allow it but make sure it gets approved by a photo comp panel which UCP would really benefit from

[henk4]

how about this:

start allowing minor editing...but when a person does edit he/she must include the original pic with the edited version...

if a majority agree too much has been done, than it has to either be out of the comp or re-edited with less done to the photo

in other words, allow it but make sure it gets approved by a photo comp panel which UCP would really benefit from

I like this idea.

[Mo-Pho]

In my opinion, the current rules should not be changed. People who know various editing methods would have an advantage over people who do not know about editing methods. Many people cannot use photoshop properly (for editing photographs).

Many people can't use a camera properly either, so those that do know have an advantage

People who have an SLR would have an advantage over point and shoot owners, so perhaps it should be a P&S camera contest only.

Post processing photos on the computer is like printing in the darkroom and is all part of the process of making good photos.

From what I've seen, the same couple of people win every time anyway, so I fail to see what some people are afraid of


Allowing post processing and retouching is only going to improve the quality of work, and give others incentive to try harder and perhaps learn something instead of continuing on submitting mediocre photography

but why? a good photographer should be able to take a good photo, not manipulate it into one.

Well, I guess Ansel Adams really wasn't a good photographer then because most of his photographs are the result of him spending hours manipulating the image in the darkroom.

A good photographer would never submit a photo (especially from a digital camera) without some sort of post work done to it.


And BTW folks the proper terminology is:

"Editing" is the process of selecting the keeper photos from your shoot and then narrowing it down to your final selection

"Post Processing" is when you adjust levels, curves, color, saturation, sharpness, dodge/burn, etc.

"Retouching" is when you manipulate the image, remove unwanted stuff, or add/ move around things etc.

[derekthetree]

.... continuing on submitting mediocre photography

in your opinion.

I find it hard to fathom how some people can make sweeping statements like this when we are talking about a subjective medium.

Well, I guess Ansel Adams really wasn't a good photographer then because most of his photographs are the result of him spending hours manipulating the image in the darkroom.

that is not what I said.

I said a good photo need not be edited, not that a good photo can be created through editing

A good photographer would never submit a photo (especially from a digital camera) without some sort of post work done to it.

submitted for what?

a competition on a car-biased website between (mostly) amateur people just having a bit of fun??

or something else?

And BTW folks the proper terminology is:

"Editing" is the process of selecting the keeper photos from your shoot and then narrowing it down to your final selection

that is not the definition of editing to which we are referring and you know it

[Piacki_117]

Either way, there will always be a difference between people who shot in JPEG and those who do in RAW...