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    Quote Originally Posted by #1 Mustang Fan View Post
    I really cannot be bothered but there is a rock blocking out sunlight in the reflection of the back window, that again SEEMS to be blocking out the sunlight to this picture. I'm probably wrong, but the picture seems wrong to me.
    You are wrong; the sun is setting on the other side of the car. The reflection in the window is a result of the polarizer hitting a curved object.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen View Post
    You are wrong; the sun is setting on the other side of the car. The reflection in the window is a result of the polarizer hitting a curved object.
    the sun is setting at the right rear side of the car, judging from the shades from the distant mountains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    the sun is setting at the right rear side of the car, judging from the shades from the distant mountains.
    The sun is still setting at the front of the car, otherwise the sky would not be that orange there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen View Post
    The sun is still setting at the front of the car, otherwise the sky would not be that orange there.
    but who knows what they did with the colours
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat_ernzen View Post
    I'm not talking about allowing stupid/ridiculous stuff, just the sort of thing that makes a good photo great.
    Allow all editing is my call. If they choose to do ridiculous/stupid editing, it just looks crap and won't get any votes...

    Yeah so with that mo-fo argument out of the way... shall we get started with another comp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timehAndGod View Post
    Allow all editing is my call. If they choose to do ridiculous/stupid editing, it just looks crap and won't get any votes...
    i concur. as i stated many times before, post processing is now integral part of digital photography. i played with analogue photographies as well.

    anyway if a photo will look too unnatural it won't get any votes either right?
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    henk4, I disagree on the civic subject.

    If this were a photography forum, we can proceed into that direction. This ain't. No good car, no good photo.

    I will never vote a perfectly taken photo of a Toyota Unser over a okay-ish Ferrari.

    The subject, the sense, the composition, the lighting, the post processing are all integral parts of making a wonderful photo. Splitting each out and have a debate over which has more importance over which is pointless IMO.

    I suggest a Photography weekly competition. That's it, no rules. cept the 800x600. Then people who compete will not only share their ISO settings and apertures and stuffs, they'll share briefly what post processing methods they've used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolstadt View Post
    henk4, I disagree on the civic subject.

    If this were a photography forum, we can proceed into that direction. This ain't. No good car, no good photo.
    nonsense, in your view a lousy shot of an Enzo should win over a well executed one of a Smart....
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    Quote Originally Posted by #1 Mustang Fan View Post
    It looks too perfect, how the car is perfectly in focus, the light & reflections look odd too.
    What in the Hell are you on about? The car being perfectly in focus, is called Pat focused the camera perfectly on the car. It's not Photoshop wizardry, it's called depth of field. He then used that image to demonstrate how RAW and basic editing enhanced colours and contrast to really bring out the image. Are you implying that a good photo should be poorly focused, lit, and extremely dull? I'd love to see your shots then.

    p.s. Pat's Murcielago was the best shot in the last comp, Lamborghini or not.
    i was waiting on a moment, but the moment never came. all the billion other moments, were just slipping all away. i must have been tripping, we're just slipping all away. just ego tripping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppelin View Post
    p.s. Pat's Murcielago was the best shot in the last comp, Lamborghini or not.
    less than 1/3 of the voters shared your opinion.....
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    Just to get back to the Dino for a second, the sun was actually rising (it was taken at like 6:15-6:30am) to the "right" of the photo/frame, so sort of to the rear of the car. I did use a polarizer, but that big black area on the glass was actually created by the sun being blocked by a mountain/hill. Which was awesome because it gave us like an extra 1/2 hour with that nice lighting. I didn't really remove any dust from the car as that was just off of a paved road and the guy keeps his car spotless. The colors and such aren't changed a whole lot, really. Here's the original unedited jpeg (I always shoot RAW+JPEG) and the color balance is off a little.

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    Some members here wouldn't vote for a photo of a Lambo only because there's a Lambo in it. It's for me just as stupid as people who vote only for the subject. I would say it's even more stupid, actually.

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    Going back to this subject issue.. I think it's gone too far when considering this whole 'civic rule' thing. Female models are attractive for a reason.. they're photogenic, beautiful, and help 'sell' the picture. A beautiful car that is photographed well has better presence than a 1998 Toyota Camry with faded beige paint. For this same reason, you don't necessarily see unattractive/unphotogenic people as photo models.

    I didn't vote for Pat's Murci photo last week, but it was still a good photo from my point of view.

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    I think the civic rules gone so far that people are afraid to vote for expensive cars, and end up voting for the one thats more "artsy" even if it's boring/not too good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    less than 1/3 of the voters shared your opinion.....
    oh well in that case i change my mind
    i was waiting on a moment, but the moment never came. all the billion other moments, were just slipping all away. i must have been tripping, we're just slipping all away. just ego tripping.

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