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  1. 11-06-2007, 04:02 PM #1
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    Alfa Romeo TZ book

    If you're interested, the Alfa Romeo TZ book by Philippe Olczyk can be downloaded free from classicscars.com: Buy or sell a classic car : Ferrari, Maserati, Pagani... and look for chassis numbers


    Chapter 1: Tz prototype, the real first TZ prototype and 1959 NY Auto Show
    http://classicscars.com/books/pdf/chapter1.pdf (1,1 Mb)

    Chapter 2: Alfa Romeo TZ, Press & Original Advertises
    http://classicscars.com/books/pdf/chapter2.pdf (1,4 Mb)

    Chapter 3: The most well known TZ in the world "750015"
    http://classicscars.com/books/pdf/chapter3.pdf (1 Mb)

    Chapter 4: Racing Results
    http://classicscars.com/books/pdf/chapter4.pdf (11,4 Mb)

    Chapter 5: Database of Chassis Numbers : TZ1 & TZ2
    http://classicscars.com/books/pdf/chapter5.pdf (6,2 Mo)


    Not the greates of quality, but it's free so who am I to complain
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    Finally a very poor work regarding to the ambitions of self-proclaimed No.1-AlfaRomeo-expert Mr. Olczyk. Even the very common Zagato prototypes with sqare headlights are missing.
    And the relation between the Asardo and the TZ isn't proven at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allemano View Post
    Finally a very poor work regarding to the ambitions of self-proclaimed No.1-AlfaRomeo-expert Mr. Olczyk. Even the very common Zagato prototypes with sqare headlights are missing.
    And the relation between the Asardo and the TZ isn't proven at all.
    be careful, because if Mr. O. does not like what you say he will sue you
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    Thanks for the warning, but I know this. Thank god I'm not living in the cowboy state.... In this case I enjoy my freedom of speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allemano View Post
    Thanks for the warning, but I know this. Thank god I'm not living in the cowboy state.... In this case I enjoy my freedom of speech.
    This is the first time I hear Belgium being referred to as a cowboy state....
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    Maybe I'm not well informed, but I only heard from american lawyers in this particular context..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allemano View Post
    Maybe I'm not well informed, but I only heard from american lawyers in this particular context..
    just referring to the nationality of Mr.O...
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    I've read some of his post on ABB were he got banned, finally. Very strange. It ended obviousely not funny for everyone who was involved in those discussions...
    But that's a bit off-topic now, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allemano View Post
    I've read some of his post on ABB were he got banned, finally. Very strange. It ended obviousely not funny for everyone who was involved in those discussions...
    But that's a bit off-topic now, isn't it?
    it is, but it might help to keep the topic lively....he does make regular and "interesting" posts on Ferrarichat too...
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  10. 11-21-2007, 04:27 AM #10
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    I know these posts (not every single of course), but it seems he got less aggressive. Maybe the FerrariChat members are more propertied than on ABB , but that's speculation only....
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    So, what's the deal with this guy?
    I only know him beacuse of some research I made on racing De Tomasos. AFAIR he also took part in Le Mans twice in the beginning of the 90s. But I haven't heard anything about him apart from those occasions. What's the problem with him and his books?
    It's not denial. I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.
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    Here are two examples of topics he was involved in and you'll easily understand...
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    Aah, a conceited troll, covering his lack of knowledge with arrogance. My favourite type Did he really sue anyone?
    It's not denial. I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.
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    I'm not 100% sure, but obviousely he sued one of those who doubt his competence. There were scans of (authenticated?) court documents attached to one of his posts (how embarrassing!). Maybe to emphasize his seriousness.
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    AFAIK, he was trying to sell the Asardo a few years ago. Right when the book appeared. Not trying to make any accusations, but a publication stating that it was a TZ prototype could have been very convenient if you wanted to sell it for a much higher price then expected.
    Also with "ordinary" TZs there have been many doubts concerning originality of some cars. I didn't have time to go through the book, but I guess he didn't try to solve those doubts in any way
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