The end of the world...

[Ferrer]

I prefer keys as well, but you get used to it.

[Waugh-terfall]

I still find myself getting so confused when moving to anything from my car, I've tried sticking the Peugeot keys into the drivers side climate control display before... The Audi feels most natural when switching between it and mine, must say it's got the best start-up of the three, key in slot, clutch down, flick key. Starts like its on a button whilst still feeling normal. Disliking the lack of key in mine as it has a tendancy not to work... i.e dashboard/headlights light up, fuel pump whirrs but nothing else...

Thought the system in the latest 320d Cabrio was quite slick, but still, it's nothing on a twist key...

[clutch-monkey]

The rare times I drive something key-less I feel disorientated, I have the feeling I'm starting a computer and in the nineties and viruses and pop-ups will destroy everything.

this is why i drive old cars.. i'm all for improvements but why mess with something that works just fine? what possible advantage (bar laziness) is there in having keyless everything

[Waugh-terfall]

as far as I can see, it's handy for not having to fish about in your pockets, especially when laden, and little else...

[LeonOfTheDead]

You still have to get it out to insert it on the dashboard though

[DesmoRob]

technology is convenient and all, but I like the old school stuff too. Mechanical things that you physically move and can count on. The more electronics, the more crap there is to go wrong. I don't even like electric windows, but live with them because nothing really comes sans them anymore. So much for driving into a lake, getting jammed between boulders, and relying on your windows to escape. Thats Tot durch zu viel Technik.

[Ferrer]

this is why i drive old cars.. i'm all for improvements but why mess with something that works just fine? what possible advantage (bar laziness) is there in having keyless everything

None.

Delta is newer but has a conventional key.

[jediali]

Hi Craig,

It's my Dad that's the driving instructor (still drives a Mini). Albert has the 118d and a Lancia Delta...and I have a funny feeling that he wishes he could swap the engines (to have the petrol in the BMW and the diesel in the Lancia)!

Ah, thanks. I feel quite thick now. So the 118d is Ferrer's own car.

I still find myself getting so confused when moving to anything from my car, I've tried sticking the Peugeot keys into the drivers side climate control display before... The Audi feels most natural when switching between it and mine, must say it's got the best start-up of the three, key in slot, clutch down, flick key. Starts like its on a button whilst still feeling normal. Disliking the lack of key in mine as it has a tendancy not to work... i.e dashboard/headlights light up, fuel pump whirrs but nothing else...

Thought the system in the latest 320d Cabrio was quite slick, but still, it's nothing on a twist key...

Hi Tom. Still lurking I see

[clutch-monkey]

when i come to power i'll make it so you have to punch the car in the middle of the dashboard to start it.

[NSXType-R]

I prefer keys as well, but you get used to it.

You need to always carry a key fob right?

That doesn't really help- honestly, a hunk of plastic to me does not equal a set of keys.

[henk4]

you can never casually throw a plastic card on the bar, as you can with a keyring (with a Ferrari badge attached)

[Ferrer]

You need to always carry a key fob right?

Nope. And that's the best thing about it, it fits in your pocket very well.

[Matra et Alpine]

you can never casually throw a plastic card on the bar, as you can with a keyring (with a Ferrari badge attached)

You can if it's an American Express black card
Used to be the Gold and .. yes I've done that flamboyant move in a bar after a deal in the US
Even Platimum is now blase !!!

THough to be fair, my Royal Bank of Scotland card with the picture of the Highland Glens was always a beter talking point with the ladies

[henk4]

You can if it's an American Express black card
Used to be the Gold and .. yes I've done that flamboyant move in a bar after a deal in the US
Even Platimum is now blase !!!

THough to be fair, my Royal Bank of Scotland card with the picture of the Highland Glens was always a beter talking point with the ladies

so you throw your credit card on the bar when arriving????

[Matra et Alpine]

It was a big deal ... like HUGE.
.. and yes we walked in to the bar, I PLACED the card on the bar and raised an open tab for the evening.
It's like with cars ... it's what you DO with it that matters !!!!


Thankfully HP were paying it all back to me later