View Poll Results: Who is the worst ex or current leader?

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  • King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz (Saudi Arabia)

    0 0%
  • H. Chavez (Venezuela)

    5 7.35%
  • F. Castro (Cuba)

    4 5.88%
  • G. 'Dubya' Bush (USA)

    13 19.12%
  • R. Mugabe (Zimbabwe)

    17 25.00%
  • Kim Jong-IL (North Korea)

    20 29.41%
  • Hosni Mubarak (Egypt)

    0 0%
  • King Mswait III (Swaziland)

    0 0%
  • Omar al-Bashir (Sudan)

    0 0%
  • T. Blair (England)

    0 0%
  • Than Shwe (Myanmar)

    3 4.41%
  • Hu Jintao (China)

    0 0%
  • M. Qaddafi (Libya)

    1 1.47%
  • P. Musharraf (Pakistan)

    0 0%
  • V. Putin (Russia)

    5 7.35%
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    [POLL] Worst living leader?

    Out of curiosity, who do you think is the worst contemporary or retired (or just no longer in office) but living leader?

    I've tried to include all the notorious ones, spanning the political spectrum.

    Please write why and/or discuss further if you like

    edit: ps: i hope no one will take offense at any of the leaders, if they don't agree, I merely tried to fill the maximum options (15) we can let the survey results decide if offense is justified or unfounded. thank you.
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    Ali Khamenei will be dissapointed with his exclusion.
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    F. Castro has already stepped down, now in charge is R. Castro (and not as David Letterman suggested, "his idiot son Fidel W. Castro"...)

    can we further list Islam Karimov of Uzbekistan and Nursultan Nazarbayev from Kazakhstan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalcraft View Post
    Ali Khamenei will be dissapointed with his exclusion.
    and so will reigning monkey Ahmadinejad
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    People voting for Castro really show how propaganda can shape people's opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen View Post
    People voting for Castro really show how propaganda can shape people's opinions.
    I thought exactly the same..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen View Post
    People voting for Castro really show how propaganda can shape people's opinions.
    So killings of thousands of "counter-revolutionaries", political prisoners not to mention labor camps in the 1960s, decades of suppressing religion, and his government's robbery of Cuba's wealth is all propaganda of course. I don't think he is the worst leader ever but he is a terrible person who exploited Cuba and almost started a nuclear war.

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    I don't know much about many of these leaders. I gotta research them first, to really give a true answer.

    Right now, my opinion is for Mr. Kim.

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    While you're at it, look up Saparmurat Niyazov of Turkmenistan. He died in December 2006, but some of the decrees of this "president for life" are frighteningly absurd. He closed all libraries and hospitals outside the capital city (Ashgabat) because the common people "don't read books" and sick people should come to the capital for treatment. Meanwhile, there's a gold statue of him in Ashgabat that rotates to always face the sun.

    My vote goes to Kim Jong-Il, but Robert Mugabe is a close second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy (in VA) View Post
    While you're at it, look up Saparmurat Niyazov of Turkmenistan.
    if still alive he would have been a strong candidate indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRR View Post
    So killings of thousands of "counter-revolutionaries", political prisoners not to mention labor camps in the 1960s, decades of suppressing religion, and his government's robbery of Cuba's wealth is all propaganda of course. I don't think he is the worst leader ever but he is a terrible person who exploited Cuba and almost started a nuclear war.
    I did not say that he wasn't a dictator, but of the people listed he ranks no where near the top. His methods can not be justified, but I don't think he was really out to make the lives of his citizens living hell. However to make his system work he had to turn to violence, which shows it is brutally flawed. The economic boycot has not helped either ...

    His antics do not come close to the oppression and destructive nature of several of the others on the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRR View Post
    So killings of thousands of "counter-revolutionaries", political prisoners not to mention labor camps in the 1960s, decades of suppressing religion, and his government's robbery of Cuba's wealth is all propaganda of course. I don't think he is the worst leader ever but he is a terrible person who exploited Cuba and almost started a nuclear war.

    He killed thousands of US backed contras and right wing paramilitaries, those political prisoners were arrested for promoting the overthrow of the government and such like, which you KNOW would get you imprisoned in the US, he didnt rob any wealth from Cuba because after the US embargo and the fall of the Soviet Union there was no one to trade with, so they had very little income to rob. Now the nuclear war, c'mon man, you cant tell me you wouldnt agree to a nuclear missile base if one of the largest countries in the world was attacking you???...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMax13 View Post
    He killed thousands of US backed contras and right wing paramilitaries, those political prisoners were arrested for promoting the overthrow of the government and such like, which you KNOW would get you imprisoned in the US, he didnt rob any wealth from Cuba because after the US embargo and the fall of the Soviet Union there was no one to trade with, so they had very little income to rob.
    MadMax, after the last couple weeks going back and forth with you and reading this rediculous post im convinced that approximately 84% of the time your dont actually think or do any research on what you are writing. (but go ahead and copy and paste this to the castro thread so we can discuss the lunacy i dont wanna hijack this thread)

    That said, I do have to agree with you in that i dont think Castro is as bad as kim jong and a few others on this list I'd say he's top 3-5. Personally i hate him more than any other leader on this list on account of all the crap he's done to my family and friends. But objectively he's not nearly as bad as kim jong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen View Post
    People voting for Castro really show how propaganda can shape people's opinions.
    So does people voting for bush, that many at least...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Canuck View Post
    So does people voting for bush, that many at least...
    the problem is that his poor leadership has had the biggest impact.....

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