Super car poll

[MacF1]

The Macca does 1Km in 19.6 sec @177mph and 200mph in 28 sec, so i'm a little sceptical that it would need 7 miles to get to 241..............however it was tested on the nardo raceway which is an oval so the distance actually needed to reach its top speed may be scewed. Hypothetically if you were able to find a stretch of straight road the F1 should reach 241 in approx 2 miles. To put the F1's performance into perspective, past 170mph not even a full race spec Formula 1 car would be able to keep up with it......

[megotmea7]

till you understand how fast 200-250mph is you wont understand how it takes ~7 miles to accelerate there, at a constant speed of 200mph you hit 3 miles a minute or a mile in about 20 seconds, with a little math it probly took the mclaren almost a minute and a half to get to ~240mph

[MacF1]

So the fact that it goes from 180-200 in 7.4 secs will not matter past 200mph?!?!?

Anyways, regardless, the point is that past 170 there isnt or hasnt been a production car that can beat it, and that is the reason why it is still regarded as the fastest production car ever made. Sure there are cars that get to 60 in less than 3.2 sec or to 100 in less than 6.4 sec (this, i'm not sure about) but after that the Macca's gone.

But I still think for pure visual aggression and that raw "supercarness" nothing beats the F40

[megotmea7]

Originally posted by MacF1
So the fact that it goes from 180-200 in 7.4 secs will not matter past 200mph?!?!?

??? where'd you get that from? think about this for every 10mph air resistance increases by 4!!!(asuming the same coefficient of drag)

[MacF1]

www.autocarmag.com
Go to the road test section and click on Mclaren F1
This is a summary of their road test.

Its a british mag, and they were the only magazine to be allowed to do an official performance test. I know this cos I'm british and have the magazine at home.

Now they could be wrong or it could be a typo, but I'm just conveying what I've read.

[MacF1]

sorry, it's 180-200 mph in 7.6 sec not 7.4 sec

mybad, here's a section of the test:

"You pick your moments with the F1: you have to accept that, except on empty autobahns, there is no way you can sample the F1’s performance potential safely and legally on a public road. So how fast is it? In second gear, the F1 adds 10mph each half-second. You’ll pass 100mph in third in 6.3sec. The second-fastest car we have tested, Jaguar’s XJ220, asked for 7.9sec. And still the McLaren is not into its stride.
It does 0-120mph in 9.3sec, a decent enough 0-60mph time for a hot hatch. It will reach 150mph from rest quicker than a Porsche 911 will reach 100mph. But the statistic to end them all is this: in sixth gear, it will cover 180-200mph in 7.6sec.
A Ferrari 512 TR needs longer to do 50-70mph in fifth. Even at 200mph the F1 accelerates hard. Had we enough tarmac, doubtless it would stop accelerating at its rev-limiter in top, which would be somewhere on the far side of 230mph.
If we tell you that the F1 handles as well as it goes, you’ll have a good idea of the esteem in which we hold this car’s chassis – it displays a level of adhesion we never came close to broaching anywhere but on the track. Although it is firmly sprung, there is body roll through corners but, as you sit in line with the roll-centre, you scarcely feel any of it. The steering is quick and lucid, and the engine makes the finest noise we have heard from a road car.

[NoOne]

Originally posted by megotmea7
??? where'd you get that from? think about this for every 10mph air resistance increases by 4!!!(asuming the same coefficient of drag)

I knew air resistance/drag was a huge factor ... I just didn't know how huge .

Thanx guys

[petritheturtle]

1) I believe you should put the Porsche Carrera GT in there.

2) Why the hell is the Shelby Cobra there?

[MacF1]

Originally posted by megotmea7
??? where'd you get that from? think about this for every 10mph air resistance increases by 4!!!(asuming the same coefficient of drag)

How did you get this.....

according to your numbers a car travelling at 30 mph has 4 times more drag than a car travelling at 20 mph........ i dont think so

drag is reletive to speed so it changes as speed increases exponentially. Its not as simple as you put it.

Many supercars are limited by the downforce they generate. If it werent for the Enzo's diffusers it would be capable of 250mph, however it would probably take off first!!! ala Mercedes CLR 1999 Le Mans Mulsanne straight.

[DiabloGTR]

All those cars are in different leagues. Some of them really shouldn't even be called "supercars".
It's not really fair because the Enzo, F1, CC8S and Saleen S7 are all in a league of their own.
While the Murcielago, new GT 40 and the GT2 dominate the 2nd-class.

[bum-man]

what the #$@!....there is no CLK GTR....tsk tsk

[MacF1]

unfortunately, those things have a nasty habit of "taking off" if you go over 200mph!!!!

Le Man anyone?!?!?!?

[bum-man]

the car you are refuring to is the mercedes CLR a very "flat" and completely different car

[MacF1]

Wow that looks odd!!

[86m3mpower]

it is impossible to pick one. if for me, by looks i'd take the zonda over anything, but its not on there so i'd pick the saleen. By performance, the cc8s runs a quarter mile in the low 10's, so I'd pick the koenigsegg for performance. But switch the F1 for the F1 LM and your running in the 9's...