New York Auto Show round-up and other news ...

[LeonOfTheDead]

They developed the idea of a smaller Maserati as they eventually realized there couldn't be a flagship for Alfa and Maserati based on the next QP, too many tradeoffs for both models.

Should be ready by the end of 2012 or slightly more, not sure about the Alfa version but I guess it will be shown at about the same time.

So yeah, RWD is coming back. I guess that can suggest no SRT8 for us though, to avoid overlapping?

[thebrochureman]

I love the look of the Scion FR-S Concept, it should rival the Toyota FT-86, well when Toyota hurry up and make the FT-86. And the Corsa, why, i know it's a VXR but that’s not excuse to make a Nürburgring Edition, yes it's fast but it's no Lexus LFA is it. The Continental Supersports Convertible ISR is very nice.

[Ferrer]

I love the look of the Scion FR-S Concept, it should rival the Toyota FT-86, well when Toyota hurry up and make the FT-86.

You know that it is... you know... actually... the same car... don't you?

And the Corsa, why, i know it's a VXR but that’s not excuse to make a Nürburgring Edition, yes it's fast but it's no Lexus LFA is it.

Luckily, it isn't...

[thebrochureman]

You know that it is... you know... actually... the same car... don't you?

Of Corse, I’m so stupid, had a bit of a blond moment. I read about this car though they were similar and posted about it without reading about it properly, yes i am very stupid.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Besides, Opel/Vauxhall had Nurburgring editions since way before the LFA came out.
Speaking of which, just about any car could receive that name as most of them are now tested there.

Even the North America bound Fiat 500.

[NSXType-R]

Why does Toyota feel the need to make 4 or 5 concept versions of cars they know will eventually be built?

Aren't concept cars extremely expensive anyway? I remember seeing the LF-A in concept form at an earlier NY Auto Show, maybe 2005 or so. Then they had a second form out, and then a droptop version of it.

Same thing with the FR-S.

Damn it, stop beating around the bush and make the damn thing already.

[Ferrer]

It could even be the same car repainted, rebadged and with some details changed.

[NSXType-R]

It could even be the same car repainted, rebadged and with some details changed.

It doesn't help me become any more interested in the car, it just makes me more frustrated.

[Kitdy]

Handling deficit would be there as well.

Probably.

So yes, it's a actually a terrible idea.

Let's do it. I like it.

KFR can do the job, and race it in some series that allows "hybrid" sedans.

Kicking your ass since 2008!

[Ferrer]

Indeed.

Even with no handling and no torque the Insight and Prius shouldn't be that hard to beat.

[LeonOfTheDead]

KFR can do the job, and race it in some series that allows "hybrid" sedans.

Kicking your ass since 2008!

I've been taken out of the loop I see... I'm going to sue you both over the infringement of the deal my 33,33333333333333333333333% share guaranteed.

Besides, that championship is called "Super Stars".
Superstars - The State of the Art in World Car Racing

[thebrochureman]

Besides, Opel/Vauxhall had Nurburgring editions since way before the LFA came out.
Speaking of which, just about any car could receive that name as most of them are now tested there.

Even the North America bound Fiat 500.

Mybe, but it dosn't mean it's not stupid, i would understand if they did
a Nurburgring edition of the GT-R, i mean thats cars great around the ring.
What are we going to have next the dacia sandero Nurburgring edition, or have they made one already, please tell me they haven't.

[Kitdy]

I've been taken out of the loop I see... I'm going to sue you both over the infringement of the deal my 33,33333333333333333333333% share guaranteed.

Besides, that championship is called "Super Stars".
Superstars - The State of the Art in World Car Racing

Gah! Why did I do KFR, not KFL!

Of course you are still in! This is one of our best ideas ever.

[Ferrer]

Mybe, but it dosn't mean it's not stupid, i would understand if they did
a Nurburgring edition of the GT-R, i mean thats cars great around the ring.
What are we going to have next the dacia sandero Nurburgring edition, or have they made one already, please tell me they haven't.

Do you actually know the changes each car underwent and are able to evaluate them?

[thebrochureman]

Do you actually know the changes each car underwent and are able to evaluate them?

Their maybe changes to it, but it's a Corsa. As for the changes they have tuned the engine management software, uprated turbocharger and a new exhaust, it now has 202bhp and 207lb ft. It now has a limited slip diff, lowered by 20mm at the front and 15mm at the rear. So their you go, i know the changes that the car went though, now for the evaluation, it's fast, clever and it handles well, but it's a Corsa, i'm not saying i hate it, i'm just saying their's no need. And it cost £22,295, so save yourself some money and get the standard Corsa VXR.