New Magna

[fpv_gtho]

its too bad there was only about 20kw difference between the 6 and 8 though

[Falcon500]

yeah and the xr6 was faster the 8 had 8 kw more then hodens engine which was 160kw and motor raved about fords new v8 then.

[fpv_gtho]

well waddaya know, weve gone back to the EB days where the XR6 is quicker than the XR8. 160kw by todays standards doesnt seem very much, yet if someone was to get an EB V8 they'd think it would have plenty of power

[Falcon500]

the xr6t is not faster thent he xr8 but its damn near but still the 160kw wuidnsor seems tame by todays standards but it still will move a basic 3.9 ea can do 200 and thats witrh a fair bit to spare all the newer baseline cars are faster then you might think and hell look at the BA an XT can cut a high 15 now for your bread and butter mdoel thats damn good VPs and EBs used to do that youll notice while driveng one of them the cars are lighter have a better exaust note and probly pick up a little faster up hill.

[fpv_gtho]

the quickest times ive seen for the XR6T and XR8 have been 5.9 and 6.1 0-100km/h but the gap closes down the quarter mile

[Falcon500]

People are paying close attention to the XR6 more becuase all our local car mage (minus the commadore ones) are giving up a lot of collum space to put all the info on the tuned XR6Ts for about 3 months now street machine has a peice on them wheels has had a few page write up motor has had a few bits and peices BOOST has had several big articles on it and performance ford mage has a peice on it every issue and AMC (austrlain Muscle car) have had a few smallish peices on it.

[fpv_gtho]

well thats alot of effort people are putting in, its no wonder people are predicting it will be the next cult car. id like to see whether a turbo HFV6 is as easy to tune though, as holden most definately will put out a turbo commodore V6

[Falcon500]

Well holden as plannign on makeing a turbo motor with the current HSV it had wait for it 239kw but it fell through.

[crisis]

Waste of time making a sub 240kw 6cl HSV when you can buy a 245kw SV8 for $40000. Then spend the rest of the money you saved on extra goodies. $150 K&N air filter, $400 SS inductions cold air intake and $1500 on extractors and exhaust. You would still probably have change from the HSV price to put a good CD player in if only it was possible..

[fpv_gtho]

well although the $49K XU-6 fell through when ford released details for the XR6T then fulfilled the promise, HSV said the extra $10K over the S supercharged, although only 9kw more, was "cheap" entry into an HSV. holden wont leave the 6 cylinder market to the XR6T and although it has its own SV8 to get around, not only is it turbo 6 power to 8, but id say the actual car minus the engines would be vastly different. i reckon though that after HSV pulled the plug on the XU-6 that holden shouldve taken the 180kw 6 for the S supercharged

[crisis]

Originally posted by fpv_gtho
well although the $49K XU-6 fell through when ford released details for the XR6T then fulfilled the promise, HSV said the extra $10K over the S supercharged, although only 9kw more, was "cheap" entry into an HSV. holden wont leave the 6 cylinder market to the XR6T and although it has its own SV8 to get around, not only is it turbo 6 power to 8, but id say the actual car minus the engines would be vastly different. i reckon though that after HSV pulled the plug on the XU-6 that holden shouldve taken the 180kw 6 for the S supercharged

HSV may have a little more to play with when the new 6 is in the cars. The flexibility of maybe being able to work with the engine plant itself. I still fail to see the point in worrying about 6 cylinders in HSVs when it is always going to be a backward step from the V8 in the same body.

[fpv_gtho]

well until HSV get the HFV6, making a V6 HSV is gunna be considered a backwards step compared to the current outputs of the gen3. if they had the 180kw six when they were still making 220kw GTS's, then it wouldve been accepted. holden have said that they will be able to make turbo HFV6's and after seeing the huge public response to the XR6T (possibly only down to the fact its the same interior as the XR8, $6K cheaper and slightly faster) they will be considering putting the engine in one of their cars

[Falcon500]

Yeah but the gen IV is supposed to be all that much better then the gen three and it is supposed to top out at around 6.somthing liters so the hfv6 will seem as limp wristed as the current v6 sitting next to it.

[fpv_gtho]

well especially for the HFV6, holden wont stretch it out right to the full potential cause they like their cars to be able to handle 91 RON petrol which might restrict power slightly but who really knows where theyre gunna take the outputs of either of the engines. they could keep them at similar levels to what they are now and chase after better fuel economy

[Falcon500]

Yeah that is also all well and true but with a new model impending the weight of the car will more then likly ballon kerbing the power these flash new engines have look at the BA if the norman barra 6 was in an au you migh see a high 14 instead of the mid 15 it gets in the ba