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    Best SuperCar Value Today - Ford GT

    I'm surprised that no one here has a thread on the Ford GT. Maybe I just had a senior moment and missed it.

    The remake of Henry Ford III's "beat Enzo" car from the 60's is a fearsome performer.

    For those of you on whom youth is wasted, I'll recap the genisis of the Ford GT. In the early sixties, Henry Ford III tried to buy Ferrari. The deal was almost done. But at a closing in Italy, Enzo Ferrari insisted that he would keep control of Ferrari racing because Ford "knew nothing about racing". Henry Ford was insensed and stormed out of the meeting. The deal was dead.

    Henry than told Ford managers that he wanted a car to defeat Ferrari at LeMans. The result of cubic money applied to cubic inches was the Ford GT40. To meet auto racing rules, a street version was produced by Lotus in England. For $18,500 plus a trip to England to be fitted for the car (the driver's seat, steering wheel, and gear shift were custom placed), you could have the fastest GT car in the world.

    Henry's revenge was a 1-2-3 finish at LeMans followed by a four year domination of the manufacturer's championship and LeMans.

    The remake is claimed to be priced at $150,000, and according to testing by American auto magazines, is faster than any production car except for, possibly, the $700,000 (delivered price) Ferrari Enzo.

    C&D tested it against a Porsche and a Ferrari. The Ferrari pushed $200,000 and the Porsche ran about $110,000. It was no contest. They ran the cars, the Ferrari was a race model, on a race track. The Ford was gaining two seconds a lap on a 2+ mile track

    With 0-60 times of 3.3 seconds, and huge torque from it's supercharged V-10, it is the best performance value today.

    Check it out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by doylede

    With 0-60 times of 3.3 seconds, and huge torque from it's supercharged V-10, it is the best performance value today.

    Check it out!
    some corrections...

    i just watched the Jeremy Clarkson (Top Gear) review of the GT again and it has a 5.4L surpercharged V8 NOT a V10. It produces 500bhp.

    also where did you get the 0-60 time?? it seems crazy. an Enzo can't even managed 0-60 in that time and it has over 150bhp more than the GT...
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    Just one small correction ... the GT has a supercharged V8, rather than a V10

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    Quote Originally Posted by @wall
    some corrections...
    also where did you get the 0-60 time?? it seems crazy. an Enzo can't even managed 0-60 in that time and it has over 150bhp more than the GT...
    That 0-60 time came from this test in C&D:
    http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/pdf/11769_eprint.pdf

    The Ferrari Enzo routinely does 0-60 in 3.3 seconds. R&T got 3.3. C&D got 3.3. So did MotorWeek. Autoweek got 3.15. Motor Trend got 3.14.

    The Ford GT's official rating will be 550 bhp. If its SVT Cobra is anything to go by, it'll probably put out a bit more than even that. (Cobras are rated at 390, but customer cars have been getting closer to 420.) Last paragraph on this page:
    http://www.topgear.com/servlet/tg?DE...Number=02.html
    Last edited by Guibo; 07-03-2004 at 12:00 AM.

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    some cobras don't give 420(unless its at the engine), some give 365-380rwhp, but i could believe the ford GT makin out its 550hp cause of its mid-engine RWD
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    1 little tiny thing about the history is that. henry ford the 2nd ask the british ford maker to make him a car that would pound the die bag ital scumbags(taken from the topgear review)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne
    some cobras don't give 420(unless its at the engine), some give 365-380rwhp, but i could believe the ford GT makin out its 550hp cause of its mid-engine RWD
    That's exactly what I mean. Official crank rating is 390. Real hp is more likely to be 420.

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    The Ford GT has 2 problems:
    1. It's a Ford
    2. It looks exactly the same as the old GT40 Ford just couldn't design a new supercar, IMO that's very lame
    I think Koenigsegg is Swedish for: "Oh no, my head's just exploded!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rijoh
    The Ford GT has 2 problems:
    1. It's a Ford
    2. It looks exactly the same as the old GT40 Ford just couldn't design a new supercar, IMO that's very lame
    agreed, FORD (backwards) = Driver Returns On Foot

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    Quote Originally Posted by doylede
    C&D tested it against a Porsche and a Ferrari. The Ferrari pushed $200,000 and the Porsche ran about $110,000. It was no contest. They ran the cars, the Ferrari was a race model, on a race track. The Ford was gaining two seconds a lap on a 2+ mile track
    You missed the bit where Ford ripped off the Lola MkVI GT, a car chosen I suspect, due to the fact that it was originally designed to use a Ford V8.

    It proved the point that Ford knew nothing about racing, apart from which team to farm the work out to.
    If they had designed and built a completely new car, by themselves, I would give them credit, but the GT40 is basically a British Lola, paid for by Ford.

    And this test, I'm guessing that the Ferrari was a 360CS, and the Porsche a GT3 RS.
    Significantly down on power compared to the GT, so hardly a fair comparison.

    Also; the GT sounds like a hoover, not a V8 supercar.
    Thanks for all the fish

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    The GT is a value, but I think I know some cars that can beat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doylede
    But at a closing in Italy, Enzo Ferrari insisted that he would keep control of Ferrari racing because Ford "knew nothing about racing". Henry Ford was insensed and stormed out of the meeting. The deal was dead.
    To clear up this bit of history, Henry Ford never met with Enzo Ferrari. There was a representitive from Ford sent to Italy to negotiate the deal. It' a minor detail that I thought I'd clear.

    Anyways the Ford GT is a great car, and a great bargain in the supercar arena.
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    2. It looks exactly the same as the old GT40 Ford just couldn't design a new supercar, IMO that's very lame
    no it doesn't look exaclty the same as the old GT40, take alook and you can c that they are pretty different, they only have the same basic shape. like the all porsche 911.

    It proved the point that Ford knew nothing about racing, apart from which team to farm the work out to.
    did you noe that back in the day, all formula one racing team use ford engine? and ford is still the most successful engine maker in formula one (ferrari is getting closer to beating that though)

    and how about rallying? ford rs cosworth, escort cosworth, focus wrc?
    v8 supercars? ford falcon

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerx
    did you noe that back in the day, all formula one racing team use ford engine?
    ford used to do pretty good in nascar with thier 428 back in the hey day of the muscle car era. Also if you listen to the song hot rod lincoln by johnny cash, it says, fords and lincoln were setting the pace, beacuse fords were one of the top used drag cars because of thier engines.
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    ford used to do pretty good in nascar with thier 428 back in the hey day of the muscle car era. Also if you listen to the song hot rod lincoln by johnny cash, it says, fords and lincoln were setting the pace, beacuse fords were one of the top used drag cars because of thier engines.
    thank you for backing up my point.

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