Ford Motor Company vs General Motors

[Coventrysucks]

What about the mainstream holdens? we need them for our roads they are built more for our conditions and limiting them to a sport only brand means we need to use something else which more then likly have adiquite ground clearence,cooling (we have to limit our areodynamics even for the sakeof cooling) and price and insurence and also public image....i dont imagine GM staying in this country for long if they try to flog off some of their large FWD V6 cars.....

The mainstream cars would be part of the global "GM" brand, suitably modified for Australia.

I just think that GM have too many "all purpose" companies without any specialists, which is why they don't have very many quality specialist vehicles.

Their "sports" cars are limited to the VX/ Speedster, which is basically a Lotus, the Monaro and the Corvette.
They have no "premium" (profit making) market cars, aside from Cadillac, which are never going to be as popular as BMW, Audi or Mercedes in Europe.

It was just an idea.

[brum]

Volvo over Saab
Falcon over Commodore
Territory over Kluger
Mustang over Camaro/Firebird

thats all i can think of for now

Kluger is Toyota

[fpv_gtho]

Territory over Kluger

hah.. Kluger.... isnt Kluger a Toyota, and Toyota is independent.. Toyota own other company’s like Hino and Daihatsu..

Kluger is Toyota

you know a little research does wonders

[brum]

you know a little research does wonders

woops

[brum]

Australias pretty behind on the New Astra, Vauxhall and Opel already have it, what else do they have that is coming our way?!

[fpv_gtho]

well im not sure of any others we're behind on, but i think we'll be getting the new Focus pretty soon after its European release early next year

[SPN:DOC]

well im not sure of any others we're behind on, but i think we'll be getting the new Focus pretty soon after its European release early next year

In most cases the delay is caused by the demand in Europe… look’s like they are predicting that no one will want it..

[NAZCA C2]

How bout Mustang BOSS 302 vs Camaro Z28. I got to go with the Boss because it just looks like what a Mustang should look like. Also it has a great engine. 300+ hp from 5 liters in 1969!!!

[Ferrari Tifosi]

mustang cobra vs. GTO or Corvette

GTO is better car as is the Corvette

GT vs. Z06

GT looks like its on top untill the C6 Z06 or the blue devil comes out then we can only speculate

personally i like GM beter but for has some decent cars

How many people will do this, YOU CAN'T COMPARE A Z06 WITH THE GT!!! or a mustang with a corvette.

[megotmea7]

and why the hell not? after the C6 Z06 release the vette will have even better performance so why not they are the top performance cars from both companys so they are itching for a comparison. and the curent C5 Z06 and the mustang cobra are just about the best comparison between the 2 manufacturers performance divisions both have roughly around 400hp (the cobra is very underrated) so why no?

[scubasteve87]

and why the hell not? after the C6 Z06 release the vette will have even better performance so why not they are the top performance cars from both companys so they are itching for a comparison. and the curent C5 Z06 and the mustang cobra are just about the best comparison between the 2 manufacturers performance divisions both have roughly around 400hp (the cobra is very underrated) so why no?

OK, here's why...The GT sells for a cool 150k usd, putting it solidly in the supercar class, as does its 3.3 sec 0-60mph run. The Corvette sells from the mid 40k-mid 50k usd range, and hits 60mph in about 4.2 seconds(not sure but I know I'm within a few tenths). These are not competitors on paper or in real life. And why not the Mustang?? The Mustang Cobra estimated to carry around 420hp in reality, manages a 4.7-4.9sec 0-60 run, and costs about 38k usd loaded up. This is at least 10k cheaper than the base Corvette, and runs about even, however, Corvette has the heritage, luxury (I'm speaking relative to the Mustang), and racing pedigree to justify the difference. I think I have fairly explained why those three cars shouldn't be compared within reason.

[megotmea7]

agian, i compare the GT and Z06 because they are both either manufacturer has to offer as far as performance goes, the Z06 is slower in a strait line but on a track i suspect the Z06 wouldnt be far off(clearly the GT would win in pretty much any race but it is still comparable) and like i said the C6 Z06 will be more than comparable. try and read my posts in their entirety