Cheap, Mid engine, Rear Wheel Drive who's the best

[ForcedInd26]

That's because you should consider the position of the gearbox as well.
Hint: a Murcielago isn't a mid engined car.

uhm, really? and so what?

that would be considered what then, rear engined?

[LeonOfTheDead]

that would be considered what then, rear engined?

Precisely.

[ForcedInd26]

then whats your exact definition of a mid engined car?

[LeonOfTheDead]

then whats your exact definition of a mid engined car?

It isn't "mine", and I don't even think there is a technical definition.
Like, what's a "supercar"?

[Ferrer]

It isn't "mine", and I don't even think there is a technical definition.
Like, what's a "supercar"?

Something that's italian and breaks down a lot.

[kingofthering]

Something that's italian and breaks down a lot.

They also like to explode into fireballs and are usually piloted by jerks.

[Matra et Alpine]

mid-engine - the engine is located between the front and rear axle lines
rear engine - the engins is located with most behind the rear axle line
front engine - the engine is located with some over the front axle line

Pretty much sums it up.

[clutch-monkey]

mid-engine - the engine is located between the front and rear axle lines
rear engine - the engins is located with most behind the rear axle line
front engine - the engine is located with some over the front axle line

Pretty much sums it up.

so the maclaren SLR is a mid-front? as in it's mid engined, but the engine is still forward of the driver.

[Matra et Alpine]

^^^ aha the first question an analytical will raise

Yes, to "appease" those who must have a precise definition then their
is mid-front and mid-rear to differntiate the "mid"

[LeonOfTheDead]

I don't know why, but the gearbox still seems to make a difference in some technical discussions. I remember one of my teachers calling an engine "mid mounted" because it was ahead of the gearbox, but I didn't asked of an elaboration as he also asked how to spell "Impreza" when asked about the differential used by such car.

whatever, I don't need also these definitions, I've already plenty of them to live with.

[clutch-monkey]

haha so we have two categories of mid engined then

[Matra et Alpine]

All your fault for creating them

Leon's teacher was even more anal in trying to come up with terminology that included where the gearbox was.

Attempts to give simple categories to that level don't work as some have tail diffs, through diffs and below diffs ( eg the original Mini )

Keeping it "simple" most know what front mid rear means. It's not worth getting too hung up on any more detail. In the odd occasions it's needed then extra words can be used eg mid-front/mid-rear - I'll give you that one ... but trying to classify ENGINE placement to include/not include gearbox, diff and trasnfer box is doomed.

[LeonOfTheDead]

I propose to add the fuel tank as well, if full that is.

jk.

[Ferrer]

I propose to add the fuel tank as well, if full that is.

jk.

What if you've got stuff in the boot...?

[LeonOfTheDead]

What if you've got stuff in the boot...?

That's funny, because a long time ago, when the Golf V came out a friend (no wait, a dude at the park) was showing off his new toy (1.9 tdi, 105 bhp) with other jerks, and at a certain point he opens the trunk and say "see this, these are 130 bhp".......nuclear silence over the park for a week or so.

This clearly change the balance of the car, don't you think?