I hope GT5 isn't just a much prettier version of GT4.....but I have a bad feeling it will be. I know that WRC and NASCAR are going to be in there, but I don't see myself spending much time with either. I don't do NASCAR and there's no way they're going to nail offroad rally as well as dedicated games have done long ago. I guess we'll all being going back and forth about it until the final product arrives next year.