2009 F1 predictions

[fpv_gtho]

I'm sick of people living in a bubble coming up with ideas like Bernie's, totally focused only on those who finish on the podium. Theres 20 drivers on the grid, and if anything i believe the points positions should pay out to the top 10 with the increasing presence and strength of the manufacturer teams.

[f6fhellcat13]

Surely he can't be serious!

Instead of that, why don't they just go back to the tried-and-tested points system of 10, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1 instead of today's 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1?

I prefer more points paying positions. Not to the extent that V8SC and Nascar do it, but enough that a backmarker team doesn't have a points-less season.

[Wouter Melissen]

I'm sick of people living in a bubble coming up with ideas like Bernie's, totally focused only on those who finish on the podium. Theres 20 drivers on the grid, and if anything i believe the points positions should pay out to the top 10 with the increasing presence and strength of the manufacturer teams.

This could be dealt with with a separate point count for drivers and constructors. Give the winner 20 points and then one point down for every finisher for the constructor's championship. That would give a very fair basis to divide the TV-money on. Then let the driver's championship be decided by this medal system. Perhaps this would complicate things too much though.

[fpv_gtho]

It's still meaningless for those drivers fighting for anywhere between 5th and about 16th in the drivers title though, which can be just as interesting as the title fight.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Probably they could increase the fight just ranking every position with much more point than the previous one, so everyone would be interested in gaining every single place. and I would give points down to the 15th place (like in motogp/sbk) if not to the whole grid, there would be less people giving up the pace at half the race just because they are 12th. besides, in these days it could be very difficult to be in the first 8 positions if you are not a Ferrari, McLaren, BMW or Renault. usually, if they are not monopolizing the first 8 positions is just for some problems they have had. even if, fortunately, this year we saw some good exceptions.

[torque55]

the only problem i think is that the 2 point difference between 1st and second in unfair, which means tht drivers approach the race with a more conservative approach, which means Boring for us.

[Matra et Alpine]

Why not ratinlaise car and bike racing ?
MotoGP poits system ...
25 points
20 points
16 points
13 points
11 points
10 points
9 points
8 points
7 points
6 points
5 points
4 points
3 points
2 points
1 point

Tho' in realiy they still have a clear front runners group and the "rest"

[Kooper]

1st place has to be something worth driving for. What's the point of taking a risk for a mere 2 points extra?

And sure there's 22 racers, but F1 is supposed to be about winner takes all. Sure, spread the points further down, but make 1st place undoubtedly worth it. In the past, if let's say a Ferrari finished first, that's ten points. The best a team like McLaren could then do is to equal the 10 points with a 2-3 finish which I think was more fair than today's setup.

Today if say a Ferrari finishes in 1st place (let's pretend the other Ferrari dropped out of the race), a team like McLaren could then theoretically still score more by notching up 14 points by finishing 2nd and 3rd. 1st place has become a formality, it's not important enough any more.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Why not ratinlaise car and bike racing ?
MotoGP poits system ...
25 points
20 points
16 points
13 points
11 points
10 points
9 points
8 points
7 points
6 points
5 points
4 points
3 points
2 points
1 point

Tho' in realiy they still have a clear front runners group and the "rest"

I think with so many points available a difference of just 5 points between first and second isn't enough.
MotoGP fans and enthusiasts used to like the old 10-6-4-3-2-1 system used in F1 back in the day. I think that's the right proportion, just extend it until the 15th place.

[fpv_gtho]

You cant really apply the older F1 systems to todays cars, not unless you want to change the technical regulations in a way to get back the old reliability records as well!

[Zytek_Fan]

Bernie is dillusional:
F1 chief Ecclestone: I'm not unreasonable. | F1 News | Crash.Net

[Knuto]

Webber seriously injured in bike accident - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Bad news on Webber. I hope he recovers fast from this accident

[Bleeding Heart]

Why not ratinlaise car and bike racing ?
MotoGP poits system ...
25 points - 1st
20 points - 2nd
16 points - 3rd
13 points - 4th
11 points - 5th
10 points - 6th
9 points - 7th
8 points - 8th
7 points - 9th
6 points - 10th
5 points - 11th
4 points - 12th
3 points - 13th
2 points -14th
1 point - 15th

Tho' in realiy they still have a clear front runners group and the "rest"

The points system in MotoGP is useful to that sporth because there are about 30 - 40 bikes lining up on the grid. F1 only has 20 - 22 cars which means it doesn't take much to earn your self a single point... Also, All the cars on the grid don't always reach the finish line, there are times where there are only about less than 10 left racing on track....

that's why the FIA only rewards 1st - 8th place

[Jack_Bauer]

The points system in MotoGP is useful to that sporth because there are about 30 - 40 bikes lining up on the grid. F1 only has 20 - 22 cars which means it doesn't take much to earn your self a single point... Also, All the cars on the grid don't always reach the finish line, there are times where there are only about less than 10 left racing on track....

that's why the FIA only rewards 1st - 8th place

Moto GP only has 18-20 riders on the grid, so there is no difference there. If anything F1 generally has more competitors on the grid than MotoGP. Also, I don't know if you've noticed, but riders sometimes fall off their bikes and don't make the finish too.

Terrible news about Webber. He has to be one of the unluckiest drivers around. Although I think that headline from ABC is a little sensationalist; makes it sound like he is on death's door, when in truth he escaped with 'just' a broken leg. Should be back in action within 2-3 months, and has a decent chance of making it for the start of the season.

[Bleeding Heart]

Moto GP only has 18-20 riders on the grid, so there is no difference there. If anything F1 generally has more competitors on the grid than MotoGP. Also, I don't know if you've noticed, but riders sometimes fall off their bikes and don't make the finish too.

Terrible news about Webber. He has to be one of the unluckiest drivers around. Although I think that headline from ABC is a little sensationalist; makes it sound like he is on death's door, when in truth he escaped with 'just' a broken leg. Should be back in action within 2-3 months, and has a decent chance of making it for the start of the season.

Sorry about that... with that post, i was only referring to the 38 riders of 125cc

About the MotoGP, they actually had 18 riders this 2008 season...

About Webber, I hope his accident doesn't affect him that much.