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    M3 Bought on eBay, Dealer doesn't Honor

    In the unlikely event that you guys havent heard this story, i figured i'd post it, as its already gaining national attention and frankly, it just pisses me off.

    Won ebay auction at 60K for E90 M3, BMW of Lincoln refusing to honor - BimmerPost - BMW Forums
    This was originally being updated in another thread but I wanted to get some additional opinions so I am posting this here. Sorry if its the wrong section.

    I’ve been looking to get an E90 M3 sedan, and was cruising ebay when I came upon this auction. Its for a Jerez Black sedan with FR interior, loaded with everything except extended leather.
    The car advertises its title in CAPS “LOWEST PRICE ON EBAY”. The auction started at 60,000 and had a BUY IT NOW for 66926 K. NO RESERVE.

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    Jerez black on Fox red was not my first choice (I have a deposit for AW/Silver interior with DCT at a local dealer) but I was willing to live with it at a 60K price point, so I bid on it with the intention to pay if I won.
    I wasn’t sure if I would win or not, but I went ahead and secured financing prior to the auction end so I could arrange immediate payment.
    I ended up winning the auction with a bid of 60K (my max was 61K).

    15 minutes after auction end, this guy Michael Barett (At BMW of Nebraska) calls and nervously tells me the auction was a “mistake”.
    I reminded him of his contractual obligation to complete the transaction, to which he continues to reply “it was a mistake”, and refused to honor the deal.
    He then offered to call his manager and confirm what they could do, but same response. When I pressed the issue and raised the possibility of legal action, this guy had the nerve to condescendingly laugh and say we are a multi-billion dollar company, ebay will definitely side with us.
    I corrected Michael, and told him your company may have revenue in the millions, but you make 35K a year, screwed the pooch on this one so lets not get carried away.
    But to make a long story short, he is refusing to honor the deal.

    This morning (Mar 21, 2008) I left a message with the GM (Fil Catania - He didn’t pick up) to call me, so we will see what happens.

    But this whole incident just stinks, and sets a bad example for ebay auto sales in general.
    Can sellers, especially dealers (which you would think are held to a higher standard on ebay) just decide they don’t want to honor a price? I know not all dealers are like this, but its pretty unethical, on both sides to back out of an auto auction because you dont like th eprice.

    Im convinced this dealer went into this auction intentionally setting a low price, with no reserve.
    The title, 08 M3 LOWEST PRICE ON EBAY says it all and me thinks they were hoping to generate bids, which didn’t pan out.
    Also, the pricepoint at which they started the auction, 60K is no small amount.....its not as if the auction started at 0.01 and ended there, it started at 60K.
    Obviously, they set it to attract serious buyers with the money to complete the transaction.

    In this case, this dealer wasn’t happy with the ending price, a 7K difference from his BUY IT NOW (which he adjusted twice, so I assume they watched this auction). Had the auction ended at 64K, would they have still refused?
    But I know had the auction ended at 90K, and I refused to pay, Im sure their lawyers would be all over me.
    Not sure what Im going to do, but part of me feels I should pursue this on principle alone. But at the same time, I dont want to get too worked up, as these things might drag out, take time/money and make it a negative experience overall. I want to be happy getting a new M3 like some of the others on the board, ya know?

    Anyone ever experience anything like this on ebay?
    Please feel free to chime in.
    discuss. and feel free to go support dooma, its spreading all over the world

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    Thats ****ed up. Unless the assholes had a reserve on it it sells at whatever it ends at, i also think hes right that the dumbasses thought people would see the $60k price and go stark raving mad bidding for it. EBay needs to make them uphold the contract, unfortunately the assholes response of "we are a multi-billion dollar company, ebay will definitely side with us" is probably right, the guy probably wont get the car because its a big business and big businesses, the vast majority of the time, get away with whatever wrong doing theyve committed...

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    i dunno i feel like possible legal action and intervention from bmwna (who loves to help us bmw owners, ive gotten them to slap my bmw dealer a few times) its very possible for him to win

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    so if it was a mistake, can the dealer explain why there are like, a billion photos of the car from every concievale angle and such a thorough specification on the car?
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    I might pursue it on principle alone but at the same time he has one on reserve and if he gave the dealer a helluva a lot of negative feedback they would have trouble selling cars on ebay in the future and the bad internet publicity will probably make others not bid on BMW of Nebraska cars and eventually force them to pull of ebay entirely.

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    but he can only leave one negative feedback per transaction with them,so i dont know if he could make that big of a difference in the ebay public areas

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    So he's getting his car then? Seems only fair to me.

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    Ouch. That sucks. Big corporations usually win though. Best of luck to him and hope both sides get what they deserve.

    Obviously its not right, but I think the dealer has to give the car. The guy bought it fair and square.

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    he said recently that they agreed to give him the car at 60k. hell of a price for an m3! i wonder what would have happened if they didnt cave though

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    yeah thats right, the issue has been resolved, dealer is honoring the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris98891 View Post
    i dunno i feel like possible legal action and intervention from bmwna (who loves to help us bmw owners, ive gotten them to slap my bmw dealer a few times) its very possible for him to win
    BMW might be a multi billion company and so is eBay, but this dealer is not. BMW is probably not happy that the dealer is selling cars on eBay and eBay's reputation is worth far more than this dealer continuing to use eBay. I'd sue and my guess is dealership will settle because the last thing they want is for BMW to get pissed and take away their franchise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aiasib View Post
    yeah thats right, the issue has been resolved, dealer is honoring the deal.

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    Awesome!

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    Someone not honouring a deal on eBay because it went too cheap? Shock horror! OMG!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris98891 View Post
    i dunno i feel like possible legal action and intervention from bmwna (who loves to help us bmw owners, ive gotten them to slap my bmw dealer a few times) its very possible for him to win
    Never thought about that, BMW-NA should put the dealer in its place, it would make BMW look respectable and upstanding. I just cant believe these assholes actually think they have the right to bullshit the buyer simply because the price wasnt what they expected and theyre a big business. Whats gonna stay with BMW-Nebraska is going to be the shit reputation theyve now recieved due to this fiasco...

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    ^^^ first time ive heard of it over something so expensive though.

    what a toss.
    The Datto will rage again...

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