Also the gtr has an ideal weight holding it low to the ground the body is shaped carefully to chanel air to the back spoiler giving it more downforce and the suspension is really hard keeping the car level to prevent a slight roll and to corner better this car has amazingly responsive steering
How many miles have you driven you're GT-R calabb and how much of it has been on track ?
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
Not my car and not on a track people have different views and if you ever get the chance to drive one you will undetstand what I am talking about
The fastest I got it was 130 mph on motorway
Taking about "ideal weight" and GT-R in the same sentence is quite a nonsense.
I think even Nissan complained about it's weight.
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Never recall nissan sayin that I think you need to drive one before you can put it down instead of believe everything you hear and its not italian
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This argument could last ages so another car that handles well is the prodrive P2 (not in production) and the porsche cayman
The diesel engine is too heavy. Go for the 1.2 TSi.
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carabb, I've been IN GT-R at 'Ring and have tried to then catch him.
Didn't get chance to drive it hard as it wasn't mine.
I believe in what I see and experience well before a magazine article with dubious links to advertising $$$
It's a bloody good car for something carrying that much weight, but lets not get carried away that it's HANDLING is "best" Arguably it's handling is mediocre but the computers fight it back in to shape ( that is opinion, no evidence to know otherwise as no owners I met met willing to run with it all off )
Think all the posts from the start of this thread have raised the relative and comparative merits of different cars in the "best handling" stakes.
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
The Cayman is a fine example of MR packaging, and handles very well. Notable in comparison with the Nissan, it doesn't rely on computers to do so. I can't comment on the P2 as I haven't driven one... but it's not a production car anyway.
I did spend roughly 6 hours behind the wheel of a GT-R, so can address it honestly: it's too heavy to handle extremely well without the whiz-bang already spoken of. It was one of my first critiques of the car, posted as an amateur review about two years ago on this site. I made several runs on sweepers considerably exceeding that. Only one road in our test gave enough space to pass 160. It's quite stable under most conditions because of it's TCS/VDC system, but in general made the car feel ponderous at lower speeds: it's not tossable. Exactly, Matra... it's a very good car designed with a particular purpose, but failing to meet a "drivers" requirements without electronic wizardry. I still want to like it, but can't. I did have the opportunity to turn the computers off, which made it a handful in fast transitions or provoked oversteer because of it's mass. It is a near-supercar for the money, designed to protect the target market: buyers with enough in their bank account but of limited skills. The photo below appeared in AutoWeek... note the rather grim look on my face.
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