Saleen S7 Twin Turbo vs Ferrari Enzo

[baddabang]

Do we get a free pizza and beer if we drop in when your're on-shift ??

condoms too if you count the Rite Aid

[FerrariPrinze1]

Wtf...and r u from any part of the city I'm from...harlem or staten island....I used to work @ the tsk in chelsea

[baddabang]

Who me? Hell no I'm from upstate

[F1_Master]

The enzo would win...the s7tt ran a 3.4 and the enzo doesnot run a 3.65thats f50...with the launch control....the enzo would win....the enzo is a true technological masterpiece...it use a 6.0 and has 660hp...and the s7tt uses a 7.0 and a twin turbo and "only" 750...ummm now which really is better

Really? The engine is masterpiece?
Oh, I found one that's better in your logic.

SSC Ultimate Aero: 1,000 out of a Corvette engine.

You get charged double. Every one else here is free though.

No worries Rock. I'm sure Matra wouldn't mind paying for the whole site.

Which looks more like a much more effective rear wing to you? This or this?

And what's so much different in the "rear wing" and aerodynamics on this and this?

The gap is smaller on the TT.

Plus, if you want a spoiler on it, get one off the S7 Comp. Coupe.
BTW, yes, that thing is street legal, and yes, it is loud.

[aNOBLEman]

Well, I drove the Enzo last week. I'm waiting for Saleen to get back to me when they've actually made the car.
I'll let you know the difference then.

Actually, have you ever read Road & Track? They've tested a Saleen S7TT in a full mile run (unless I misread that it was a prototype) and Saleen have had the S7TT at Detroit the past two years.

Again back to aerodynamics, a bigger wing of course weighs more, but that's why race cars have lighter bodies. The S7 TT's aerodynamic "improvements" simply aren't good enough for the extra 200hp and turbos compared to the base S7. The base S7 does go slower in corners than most of its competitors, so I don't think the S7 TT will get any better handling when its aerodynamics is equal or even worse than the base S7 in proportion to power.

The normal S7 has enough downforce to theoretically drive upside down at 150mph. The S7TT has more downforce than that so I think its aero is just fine.

[driftnWRX]

750-660 = 90, not 110

But anyway, I'm not arguing with you - I agree that the S7 would be faster in most settings.

(PS. I'd love to see some pics of your RX7)

here are links to pics of my rx-7. http://homepage.mac.com/whitehill/PhotoAlbum19.html

[Vaigra]

Actually, have you ever read Road & Track? They've tested a Saleen S7TT in a full mile run (unless I misread that it was a prototype) and Saleen have had the S7TT at Detroit the past two years.

Nope, can't say I have read it. Not available over here.
By Detroit, I presume you mean the Detroit Motorshow and the S7 TT has been on display? I've not heard of it actually being driven. Is it one that they make specially, only after you've placed your order?

[FerrariPrinze1]

Really? The engine is masterpiece?
Oh, I found one that's better in your logic.

SSC Ultimate Aero: 1,000 out of a Corvette engine.


No worries Rock. I'm sure Matra wouldn't mind paying for the whole site.


The gap is smaller on the TT.

Plus, if you want a spoiler on it, get one off the S7 Comp. C

Yea too bad it has a blower... So the enzo engine is better...FERRARI hav acheived 1000hp with the f50gt and many others

[The_Canuck]

So?^ any way i think the saleen would win, apparently its cornering is amazing.

[Coventrysucks]

Yea too bad it has a blower... So the enzo engine is better...FERRARI hav acheived 1000hp with the f50gt and many others

Sorry, but apart from you saying it, do you actually have anything that proves a F50 GT produced more than the c.750bhp that everybody else quotes?

A 33% increase is a fairly significant hike.

Also, apart from an, as yet mythical, F50GT; what other cars have Ferrari produced with an out put of 1000bhp+?

[Ferrer]

Also, apart from an, as yet mythical, F50GT; what other cars have Ferrari produced with an out put of 1000bhp+?

Maybe if we put all their cars together...

[henk4]

Also, apart from an, as yet mythical, F50GT; what other cars have Ferrari produced with an out put of 1000bhp+?

I am sure you all remember the 1500 cc turbo engines used in F1 from 1981-1988...

[F1_Master]

Nope, can't say I have read it. Not available over here.
By Detroit, I presume you mean the Detroit Motorshow and the S7 TT has been on display? I've not heard of it actually being driven. Is it one that they make specially, only after you've placed your order?

The S7 TT is already in good production. If you'd like, I can get you a shot of the blue TT at Lamborghini next week.
The one most US magazines are testing is the orange Cali. S7 TT that was one of the 1st to arrive.

[aNOBLEman]

Nope, can't say I have read it. Not available over here.
By Detroit, I presume you mean the Detroit Motorshow and the S7 TT has been on display? I've not heard of it actually being driven. Is it one that they make specially, only after you've placed your order?

Yea, it has been at the Saleen stand the past two years. It was a silver one two years ago and the one that was their this past year was also silver (if i remember correctly). I'm not sure if it is a special order car or not, but I know that at least one has been driven.

[Viper007]

Exactly. NOTHING has been proven about the S7 TT yet and I have a sneeky suspicion why ... they've pulled a Bugatti and made false claims which will take them about 6 years to correct. But unlike Bugatti, Saleen doesn't have the money to throw around.

Buy a copy of Car And Driver. They've tested it and its a damn good read. Or if you dont like C&D, you can check out this months issue of Automobile Magazine, they compare it verbally to a veyron.