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| tshurtz 04-26-2006 |
i too have seen this car in person, even touched it, well the tire anyway, its one sweet car although it was on a showrom floor in redwood city, i'm sure you have heard of the new ferrari Maserati dealership there. aperantly someone offered 5 million for it but was turned down. me and a couple of other guys were talking to the head guy at the dealership, he said that the car had been crashed once going 130, but it got sent back to italy to be rebuilt. i can imagint that its carbon fiber body took a pritty penny to build the first time and probably even more the second. |
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| davz 05-17-2005 |
there were 3 cars made total 2 parts cars and one race car so the car in the pic is really 01-01. it weighs 1700 lbs NOT 2000. It dynos at 900 bhp. |
| Seen this car in person.... |
| Danno 9-2-2003 |
"I've seen this car in person twice, both at the Cavallino Classic ferrari fest in palm beach, and one of those times included seeing the car run on the track at Moroso motorsports park (I have a great picture of the GT1 passing the sebring and daytona-winning Momo 333SP down the front straight) and I would like to say that barring the 512M and 312P/312F1, there is no better sounding car in the world. It screams like a banshee at peak RPMs (similar to a 333, but slightly more delicious with the extra .7L) and looks faaaasssstttt!!!! when going all out. I found a video of the GT1 from inside a chasing 355 at Fontana, maybe search kazaa for it to get a sense for yourself of what this thing sounds like. I too wish it had raced, but everything Le mans fan has said is true, at the time the 333SP was a better bet in both a preformance and an economic sense, it's too bad that Ferrari hadn't put all efforts into the 333 as given more money the teams would have had a car closer to what JMB ran at LM in '99 long before then when it would have been seriously competitive, as by '99 running a 3:38 was no longer cutting the mustard when just 2 years before that would have been very close to top dog. The JMB car was the fastest ""real"" 333 (excepting the Judd powered Doran car) that was ever built, also saw that car driven by max papis at Moroso, good stuff. Le mans fan, seeing as you own a 333SP, I've got a couple questions for you, when/where do you get a chance to drive that sucka, and do you regularly come to the Cavallino as there are usually about 6 333sp's that show up each year at the track?" |
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| Ferrari942 24-1-2003 |
WOW what an incredible car...i found a great site with tons of pictures of this car. apparently they took it out for a couple laps at california speedway and the pics are here http://www.nsxfiles.com/fontana_ferrari.htm there was also a nice F40 battling it out on the track |
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| LeMansFan 15-11-2002 |
The F50 GT is a great car, no doubt. But let's not exaggerate its significance. First, to answer someone's question as to how it gets it's HP with a normal V12- well...I own a 333 SP prototype and it is documented at about 670 HP stock and that is with ONLY a 4.0 liter engine. So, a 4.7 liter can easily get that amount and more, given high RPMs. And to respond to another person regarding the statement about the F50GT out-performing the 333 SP, that is a press release statement which has NOT been verified by anyone outside Ferrari. Similarly, everyone thought that the F50 was faster than the F40 when it came out- but anyone who is involved in racing these cars and teams who develop them for club events know that car-for-car stock the F40 is a better track performer AND far easier to modify for serous racing. But, regarding the 333 and F50 GT, obviously a slightly bigger engine will deliver more HP given the same rpms but there are regulations for GT cars at Le Mans so that Teams can't just put any big powerplant in any car, and we have to consider these factors- 1) the 333 SP chassis is far more race-worthy than the GT in terms of stiffness, cornering, etc. 2) the 333 is 200lbs lighter than the GT. So, immediately that takes away from the GT's acceleration, speed, handling and breaking. 3) Most importantly, even if the F50GT was tested at 750hp, it doesn't matter because its GT1 class keeps cars at 600hp. So let's measure apples to apples. The 333 was tuned to well-over 700hp for shorter races in IMSA. So, if both cars are kept at the same power (about 700hp) the extra torque of the GT would be offset by the 200lbs extra weight of the GT too. At best, the F50GT would equal the 333, which in itself is awesome. 4) Finally, Ferrari realized that they produced this car TOO late. They knew that it would be fast (like the F40 LMs which were the FASTEST GT cars of the 95 Le Mans, ahead of the F1s- but broke down) BUT they also knew they had to put BIG money into developing it for Le Mans, which Ferrari hasn't done since 1972. The 333 SP was the fastest car (lap record) at the 96 Le Mans and still holds the record at Daytona- but no factory support which is key. Also, Ferrari knew that the F50 GT would probably not do well in its first year against the BIGGER 6.0 liter V12 engine '97 F1 Longtails and the newer very fast turbo Porsche GT1s. Further, the year the F50GT would be more prepped to win would be 1998- but Ferrari knew that the F50GT could not compete at all with the revised GT1 class which included the exotic winning GT1 Porsches, Toyota GT1s and the fastest CLKs (all of which were basically prototype cars). Hence it is the most probably explanation of the F50GT's retirement. There ya go. |
| F50 GT, A VERY EXCLUSIVE CLUB |
| West McLaren 8-8-2002 |
"F50 GT S/N 003 was the feature car at the RM Classic Car Auction at Scottsdale, Arizona, on January 23, 2000. With standard F40's selling in the $250,000-300,000 range, and production F50's bringing $600,000-650,000, the F50 GT's selling price of $1,430,000 had the Ferrari world buzzing. The F50 GT is one of the great ""what ifs"" in Ferrari's history. The car was developed in late 1995-96 to be raced by privateers in the 1997 BPR Global GT Championship series. Developed as a competition coupe version of the F50, the F50 GT was meant to be a replacement for the F40 LM and its later variations, the F40 LM GTE, which had been a relatively successful car in the (now defunct) BPR GT series. Two F50 GT's were to go to Scandia racing, two more to Ferrari Club Italia which was going to run with Benetton sponsorship, and a fifth car was going to be supplied to MomoCorsa. Other cars, if built, were to go to various European privateers. While the street version F50 will go from 0-60 mph in 3.7 seconds, and has a top speed of 202 mph, the racing version F50 GT will launch itself from 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds, and has a top speed of 235 mph. The normal engine in an F50 street car, designated the Tipo F130, is a de-tuned F1-type V12 engine expanded to 4.7 liters and rated at 513 hp at 8,500 rpm. The F50 GT engine is designated the Tipo F130A and develops a tire-shredding 750 hp at 10,500 rpm. The official reasons for the cancellation of the F50 GT program in late 1996 were the high development costs and Ferrari's need to focus on Formula 1. Rumors in the Ferrari world included a refusal by Ferrari to go head to head with Porsche or Mercedes in GT racing, and/or that Bernie Ecclestone, head honcho of Formula 1, didn't want Ferrari diverting its resources from F1, nor did Ecclestone want the Ferrari name in a rival racing series from which Bernie derived no profit. (Strange how we find this latter reason so easily believable.-ED.) As an aside, the BPR series, named after its organizers, Jurgen Barth (of the Porsche Factory) Patrick Peter (now organizer of the Tour Auto) and Stephen Ratel (organizer of the Venturi and Lamborghini Challenge series) is now suing Ecclestone. They claim he stole their series and replaced it with the new FIA GT series, conveniently controlled by the aforementioned Mr. Ecclestone. The owners of the first three F50's delivered have not been shy about showing off their hot-rod Ferraris. S/N 001 was sold to Art Zafiropoulo, a California collector. This car arrived in the US on April 18, 1997 and was introduced to the public at the Ferrari of North America-sponsored Rodeo Drive concours of April 19, 1997, held in Beverly Hills. The second F50 built, S/N 002, was sold through Cornes, the Japanese Ferrari importer, to a Japanese collector, Yoshikuni Okamoto. The third car, S/N 003, was sold through Ferrari of Beverly Hills to Jim Spiro in Louisiana. All were sold in the $1,000,000 or ""a little more"" range. It was S/N 003 that sold at the RM Auction in Scottsdale for $1,430,000 including premium and is now on its way to an Australian collector. With over 350 F50's built, a 150% premium for an F50 GT, which is really just a race car without a racing pedigree (think 288 GTO) seems absurd. Add in the knowledge that there are three tubs left at the factory waiting for someone with the patience and checkbook to own S/Ns 004, 005 and 006 and the price seems even crazier. On the other hand, in today's dot-com economy, where a private 757, a fifty-room mansion or ownership of a Major League sports team doesn't buy exclusivity, an F50 GT, the latest and most potent Ferrari GT race car ever built, does guarantee bragging rights in the club of young billionaires who are always looking for new ways to one-up their buddies. And paying a $400,000 premium? That just means their stock will have to go up another fifty cents a share to make that money back. """ |
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